Soviets in Trouble!!

[Deathflame]

and remember russia is’nt the key to the game, stopping japan from helping germany conquer russia is. danwatkins01@yahoo.com

Exactly! I agree fully.
You wanna try to balance the defence in karelia, and at the same time keep some units for a counter standby in russia, thus you will like our friend SUD here says take out the german tanks, which will set the germans back a great deal. They are most likely gonna loose a great deal of men, and most of the times maybe some tanks before they get Karelia. Best thing is that their reinforcements are 2 turns away, and not too many tanks can be bought by then…. Ambush them in karelia from Russia.

Another aspect is if UK and US can concquer Norway/finland early, you’ve got more $$$ to spend on countermeassurements, and u can use more $$$ on japan

[Deathflame]

BTW i buy 8 inf two first turns as USSR then i buy as the game progreses

[alamein]

wow, someone agreed with me, thanks deathflame. I prefer the armor to the two extra infantry- I guess it is somewhat cool to have a mass of armor…just personal preferece.

[Yanny]

Heres some advice, and it will make it more fun for the Russian player! Go on the offense. Take Ukraine, take Finland. This will add 5 to your economy, use it for 1 tank per turn. Besides that, build infantry. The germans should be under pressure, so hit them hard when you have the chance.

Also, plan ahead for Japan. Commit an infantry per turn to the Far east, and you’ll be ready to make a solid defence when Japan attacks the east.

[Ozone27]

Yanny’s is a good idea, but I usually lack the guts to attack 2 territories at once as Russia T1. 1 (preferably Finland, to save your ARM, is sufficient).

However I take issue with the attack mentioned by Anonymous using 2 FTR & a SUB vs. the German Baltic fleet. If you use the SUB, the German SUB gets a counterattack whereas if you don’t use a SUB it doesn’t. I’d take a risk and deploy the SUB vs. the German Atlantic SUB–you’ve got a 50% chance there (unless he submerges or retreats) and you can pretty much prevent the Gerry’s sinking the USA TR T1 if you succeed. Plus its 1 less SUB. Otherwise, just put the SUB w/ the TR in UK waters T1.

Just my thoughts.

Ozone27

P.S. I consider USSR to be my 2nd weakest country–after USA–when I play: so don’t pay me too much mind! :grin:

[TG Moses VI]

What are you talking about? USA is the strongest country in the game. Two seperate bodies of water have to seperate them in order to prevent USA from trampling the Axis.

[Ozone27]

…no, I meant that as far as MY playing goes, I am weakest as USA and USSR respectively. Sorry for the confusion…

Ozone27

[alamein]

ozone I’m the anonymous, the reason i use two planes and the sub is because it makes for a gauranteed kill. with only the possible loss of a sub. see the transport still gets to defend at one, if I attacked with planes alone I might loose one, and I need them to trap germany. Where as if i attacked with my transort and sub or just my sub, i only have a very low success rate, and you can’t have the sub or transport get loose. danwatkins01@yahoo.com

[TG Moses VI]

Oh, well yeah, sorry about the mix up too. But I really thought Russia and America would be the too easiest countries to play. If you’re Russia, just build inf. and the occasional arm. And if you’re America, just build inf. and transports with the occasional ftr. Knowing when and where to attack might be your problem, so it’s good to experiment with an odds calculator.

[Ozone27]

Naah, my real problem is that I play better when I’m “on the ropes” than when I’ve got major momentum behind me. USA has a lot of money through most of the game, so I tend to spend cash willy-nilly and regret my purchases later. As USSR, I play well the first few turns, but once the Allies start going on the offensive I have an annoying tendency to lapse into inertia and continue “building up” against the Axis. I vastly prefer playing the Axis powers beacause of this, but (like everybody) am working to improve my weak areas.

As far as the attack vs. the Baltic Sea: I can totally see not wanting to risk a downed Soviet FTR on T1, but that German TR only gets a 1 for an attack–in my opinion its worth the risk to be able to put an extra ship in UK waters on Non Com. Just my opinion; everybody brings a different style to the table.

Ozone27

P.S. I’d like to mention that a good Germany player never forgets about the retreat option. If USSR has a TON of INF and Germany has a lot of ARM, he/she may decide it is in Germany’s best interest to attack Karelia in the hopes of a couple of good rounds w/ the ARM before retreating. This tactic is particularly devastating if USSR continues to languish in the 24-27 IPC income range while Germany takes over Africa and Japan swallows the Far East. Best defense: invest in a few ARM and stick it to him a few times before he sticks it to you.

[ This Message was edited by: Ozone27 on 2002-03-02 23:43 ]

[Yanny]

I think you guys misunderstand me. Thanks Dan for emailing me.

I dont mean take Finland and Ukraine on Turn 1. This would spread your forces too thin. I would attack Ukraine Turn 1, Finland turn 2, and sometimes even Eastern Europe turn 3.

[NameUsedBefore]

I do what Yanny does: Attack Ukraine first turn. It completely stalls the Germans. I leave like two or three infantry in the Ukraine and leave the rest from where they came from. Then every time Germany counter-attacks I counter-attack. Usually by turn three I can take Finland and East Europe. Then Germany’s fate is sealed as the UK lands in France, then after Japan’s turn, the U.S. lands even more manpower in France. Poor Germany.

[Guest]

Its me again. I found a good statagy. on turn 1 send 4 infantry, 2 fighters, and 2 tanks. Attack Ukraine S.S.R. with it then if your fighters survive send them Kaleria.
Turn 2. Attack Eastern Europe and finland with everything, Then even if Russia falls Germany will be almost defenceless.

[HortenFlyingWing]

Russia restricted is a much use house rule. russia can hurt germany way too much in turn 1.

so, how about strategies for a restricted russia?

personally, in turn 1, i buy 8 infantry, put them all in karelia, keep one guy in cacasus (spelling!), and put all 4 tanks in Novorbirsk so they can retake karelia, or attack japanese holdings.

do you think ti would be smarter to put as mucht tanks in karelia, and counter attack against germany in turn 2?

[Guest]

Way off the topic but yanny i really like you’re napoleon quote :smile:

[TG Moses VI]

Yeah, I would rather place my tanks in Kerilia as it will boost the defence of the Motherland. Plus this gives Russia for a possible Ukraine/Eastern Europe offensive in T2. As for Japan? They usually don’t become a high threat to Russia until T2 or T3.