CorriganBP (Allies) vs Cmdr Jen (Axis) Alpha +3, Objectives, no technologies

[corriganbp]

How many Axis vs. Allied wins are you seeing your games so far?

[corriganbp]

yes, the factories helped and i was glad that I did that.  And there were turns where I even built fighters on the front lines so that I could hold them.  But I also needed the American air force to help secure them.

[corriganbp]

One additional thing, had you not had such great dice with England, I could have liberated it a long time ago.

[Jennifer]

@corriganbp:

One additional thing, had you not had such great dice with England, I could have liberated it a long time ago.

Had I not declared war on Round 2, and had normal dice, you would probably have gotten London liberated about now, if not later given the combined Axis fleet would have been in SZ 91 for a while.  I made a few mistakes.

1)  DOW Round 2.
2)  Taking Africa - it was never my intent to do so, I certainly should not have done so!  Egypt should have been my only target, if even that.  Generally I hit Greece, S. France and Gibraltar and let the British go where they want, should have done it that way too - no complex in Egypt for America then. 
3)  Abandoning England, I should have kept the tank stack there and prevented liberation.  Then I would have only to hold Novgorod and Egypt and won that way as well (granted, a lot of my actions were because I was planning for Japan to win!)
4)  Agreeing to continue the game after I won. :P

Want to switch sides?

[Jennifer]

@corriganbp:

yes, the factories helped and i was glad that I did that.  And there were turns where I even built fighters on the front lines so that I could hold them.  But I also needed the American air force to help secure them.

Yes, it was interesting to organize that pile of army in Romania and see 9 Russian aircraft there.

[corriganbp]

Actually, you need Vologograd or Moscow as well.

1.) London
2.) Paris
3.) Rome
4.) Warsaw
5.) Berlin
6.) Leningrad
7.) Cairo (but now you are violating one of your own directives)
8.) One other city.

I have always said that the Euro Axis VC conditions were much harder than Japan’s although not everyone agrees.

Yeah, if you want to see if you can beat my sea lion strategy again, we can return to the normal sides.

So you are not yet convinced that the current set up is over the top pro Axis?

[Jennifer]

Wait, I didn’t say that!  My axis did win, after all!  And there would have been some other changes had I known I would be agreeing to go on.  For one, I would not have let China grow so large, as it was, they were 3 spaces from Hong Kong and Beijing when I took Hawaii so I was not overly worried about them, but that changed when we moved on farther.  More fleet for Germany would have helped as well, at least in keeping going.  Not to say I did not make mistakes, Africa was one…

I’m willing to play you again, on either side for fun.  I have grown to dislike playing games to “test a theory” because, as Noll will attest, you can sacrifice everything on the board to prevent the theory from working.  It’s what Jimmy did for Alpha 2 sea lion, he gave up all of Africa, the Middle East and the Med Sea to “save” England.  Noll gave up Euro-Asia and the American fleet to “save” India.  Worked cause I stupidly sank his fleet instead of crashing against India. Eh.  Live and learn.

Just tell me which side you want, if you are axis, create a thread and post a link in here - please, else I’ll create a thread and post a link here.

[Jennifer]

Could also take Cairo if you run into a snag in Russia.  If it’s the 8th VC odds are the allies cannot liberate it - as they don’t have African income or complexes, right?

[corriganbp]

the problem with playing the game as is for the win or for the fun is that the current set up is really a different game . … it is a game called the Axis Virtually Always Wins, and yes, you can play to see who gets the VC win first but that’s not my play style, I play to win the war.

I’ve seen 5 Axis 1 Allied win so far, 6 Axis wins if I count Noll’s surrender.  And that includes your win against me as well.

so you can say let’s not play to test a theory, but the theory is “Can the Allies win?”

[corriganbp]

If you want to play to see if you can stop sea lion rather than winning after I’m successful with it, no problem.  However, if your strategy involves really aggressive attacks (aggressive = low probablility = just trying it until the dice go your way), then you really haven’t proved anything.

[Jennifer]

Okay, using your theory we can play to test a theory. lol.  I meant it’s not really a fair test to test a theory like kill India first because it allows people to do weird things to “stop” the test and almost feels like it forces you to attack anyway…

Okay, how about this:  The axis powers win if they control 2 capitols on each board.  On the europe board they need 2 of:  Paris, London, Washington DC and Moscow.  On the pacific board they need 2 of: Calcutta, Sydney, Washington DC, all Chinese territories and San Francisco.    They need BOTH, Europe and Pacific.

Perhaps that is “fair” and we can get rid of the VCs altogether - make it more like Classic that way.  Although, if you ask me, VCs should just be 3 IPC NOs for whoever controls them as long as they are not your own territories.

[corriganbp]

Cmd Jen,

I appreciate the effort but what you are basically doing is changing the number of VCs and the number needed to win.

The reason why we need Larry is not because he has divine powers but because no two Axis and Allies players can agree on anything.

In fact, most A&A players just because they tend to have very competitive personalities, automatically think of the next person’s idea as a bad idea.  That is, unless you make a sweeping generalization such as this one, in which case they will bend over backwards to prove that they agree with everyone else’s ideas except yours.

Oh well, maybe I should just accept the game as is and try to get as many victories as possible using the strategies I know.  Just give me the germans every time - although I really would like to play the allies once in a while.

[Jennifer]

Well, theoretically, it is your turn for the allies again.  :wink:

[Noll]

corr I didn’t surrender, I’ll resume that dicey game later.

[Jennifer]

@Cmdr:

Well, theoretically, it is your turn for the allies again.  :wink:

Since Noll’s post started a new page, it’s yer turn for the axis, if you want to go again.

[Jennifer]

And yes, I’d love to play a game where all I have to do is have fun.  I don’t have to win, I don’t have to prove a theory, I don’t have to do anything but have fun.