@ampdrive Italy declared war on UK to try to get a strategic edge before UK made the first move. The reason for going into France is to take an advantage of the fact that France clearly was fighting like shite and wanted to gain easy land.
UK Gov't in exile Discussion - Delta 1
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Okay, I am looking at the map and the Victory City is in Ontario. Make of that what you will, but that’s why I assumed the exile government would be there.
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@Vance:
Right. I realized that and then removed it.
I think the only setup change that is really needed is the addition of the airbase for nova scotia, unless anyone can point out anything else?.
And a fighter in Ontario. That way it can get to England before Germany can attack.
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@Cmdr:
London falls to Germany or Italy (don’t laugh, I’ve taken England TWICE with Italy!). The conquering nation get the whole treasury (hey, it’s all there to be used by England. You should get penalyzed for losing your capitol!)
Immediately on the fall of England:
Quebec gets 1d6 infantry immediately.
Quebec gets +3 IPC land value (should give them 10 IPC for all of Canada then, and this would allow the complex to be upgraded as well.)
Quebec collects for all European territories that England controls.meh, they all just wish they were in America instead! ;P
If we are adding inf to Canada I think we should do it in the force setup.
We could boost their income, but I would do it with an NO. It could be worth 3ipcs. Not sure where to locate it though.
What happens if Canadian troops capture Albania for instance? Would Canada get the ipc or would it go to London.
Also if this and the neutral block rule that I propose went through, whats to stop Canada from fighting to take over Samerica while US goes to the Mainland?
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OK so you want UK to get 1 extra airbase and 1 extra fighter in Nova Scotia. Should they lose anything elsewhere to make up for those extras? Should the axis get something too?
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@Vance:
Right. I realized that and then removed it.
I think the only setup change that is really needed is the addition of the airbase for nova scotia, unless anyone can point out anything else?.
We may find that Canada needs another inf, but lets have playtesting find that out. Canada is probably secure.
If London is liberated, all Canadian ipcs go to London?
I am warming to the AB in nova scotia, not so sure about the ftr though. Whats to keep it from moving to London and aiding in the defense of the capital. Perhaps we move it to off the AB so that UK1 it moves to AB, UK2 it makes it to London…hmmmm
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No, I want an Airbase in Nova Scotia, I want a fighter in Ontario (specifically so it is close enough to reinforce England, but far enough it can’t do anything in round 1.)
I want Canada to get 1d6 infantry if and only if London falls. (Masses flocking to the recruiting stations to liberate Mother England! God save the King!!). That way they are not just extra units for England to use where they please, but units specifically to bolster the defense of the government in exile.
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@Cmdr:
I want Canada to get 1d6 infantry if and only if London falls. (Masses flocking to the recruiting stations to liberate Mother England! God save the King!!). That way they are not just extra units for England to use where they please, but units specifically to bolster the defense of the government in exile.
Thats exceptionally radical, I can’t think of any other instance where a nation gets units for a die roll. I think that is too radical for Delta. This should feel and play like an A&A game, not an ‘expansion’ or house rules game.
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Boosting the income of Canada sorta defies the whole purpose of Sea-lion, doesn’t it?
I feel that Canada’s IPC should remain 7 (or less) no matter what they conquer.
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@Cmdr:
I want Canada to get 1d6 infantry if and only if London falls. (Masses flocking to the recruiting stations to liberate Mother England! God save the King!!). That way they are not just extra units for England to use where they please, but units specifically to bolster the defense of the government in exile.
Thats exceptionally radical, I can’t think of any other instance where a nation gets units for a die roll. I think that is too radical for Delta. This should feel and play like an A&A game, not an ‘expansion’ or house rules game.
I don’t think it’s too terribly different than France suddenly getting infantry for being liberated, do you? (fine 12 IPC. Maybe it’s 12 IPC for London falling then? It’s almost the same as the die roll.)
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@special:
I feel that Canada’s IPC should remain 7 (or less) no matter what they conquer.
me too. except maybe they can take Brazil and get $9, plus those infantry!
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Yeah…otherwise Canada can become too powerful and that would probably upset the balance. So Canada cannot capture territory for canada, only for London which is conquered at the moment.
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@Vance:
@special:
I feel that Canada’s IPC should remain 7 (or less) no matter what they conquer.
me too. except maybe they can take Brazil and get $9, plus those infantry!
I don’t have a problem with that. Chances are that Brasil will get activated by USA anyway
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@Cmdr:
No, I want an Airbase in Nova Scotia, I want a fighter in Ontario (specifically so it is close enough to reinforce England, but far enough it can’t do anything in round 1.)
UK can reinforce London by scrambling to defend the transport in z109 G1, moving the transport to z106, and then shipping back 1 inf and 1 armor UK2.
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@Vance:
@Cmdr:
No, I want an Airbase in Nova Scotia, I want a fighter in Ontario (specifically so it is close enough to reinforce England, but far enough it can’t do anything in round 1.)
UK can reinforce London by scrambling to defend the transport in z109 G1, moving the transport to z106, and then shipping back 1 inf and 1 armor UK2.
Not in my world!
I take out SZ 109 and SZ 106 on Germany 1. I risk a lot of planes to do it, but England risks more planes if they attack mine.
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@special:
@Vance:
@special:
I feel that Canada’s IPC should remain 7 (or less) no matter what they conquer.
me too. except maybe they can take Brazil and get $9, plus those infantry!
I don’t have a problem with that. Chances are that Brasil will get activated by USA anyway
If UK in exile has the option to take Brazil’s infantry, then is there any need to give them extra infantry by a die roll or whatever?
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@Cmdr:
@Vance:
@Cmdr:
No, I want an Airbase in Nova Scotia, I want a fighter in Ontario (specifically so it is close enough to reinforce England, but far enough it can’t do anything in round 1.)
UK can reinforce London by scrambling to defend the transport in z109 G1, moving the transport to z106, and then shipping back 1 inf and 1 armor UK2.
Not in my world!
I take out SZ 109 and SZ 106 on Germany 1. I risk a lot of planes to do it, but England risks more planes if they attack mine.
Right, so to prevent UK getting that inf and tank, as Germany you would use your planes in z109 instead of against capitol ships or in France.
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@Vance:
@Cmdr:
@Vance:
@Cmdr:
No, I want an Airbase in Nova Scotia, I want a fighter in Ontario (specifically so it is close enough to reinforce England, but far enough it can’t do anything in round 1.)
UK can reinforce London by scrambling to defend the transport in z109 G1, moving the transport to z106, and then shipping back 1 inf and 1 armor UK2.
Not in my world!
I take out SZ 109 and SZ 106 on Germany 1. I risk a lot of planes to do it, but England risks more planes if they attack mine.
Right, so to prevent UK getting that inf and tank, as Germany you would use your planes in z109 instead of against capitol ships or in France.
I don’t use planes in France anyway. No need.
I hit SZ 106, 109, 111 and 112 on Germany 1. You may keep your annoying little HMS Hood and her younger sibling the cruiser. I spit, in your general, direction, Royal Navy!
Anyway, the idea is to stop reinforcements from getting to England by any means necessary. Secondary objective is to destroy all destroyers to prevent my submarines from being attacked (and thus assure convoy damage!) Lastly and of least consequence is France. If I fail in France oh well, Italy will get it. But the odds of failing in France are so minute, it’s not really a concern for me.
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OK so if I get this straight, you would have an extra airbase in Nova Scotia, and an extra fighter in Ontario so it can’t scramble to defend the destroyer and transport in z106 on G1. The idea for the fighter is that it will move to the airbase on UK1 and then on to UK on UK2 in time to defend against sealion G3. So why not just add the extra fighter to UK? Why bother putting it in Canada at all if if doesn’t defend z106 G1?
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@Vance:
OK so if I get this straight, you would have an extra airbase in Nova Scotia, and an extra fighter in Ontario so it can’t scramble to defend the destroyer and transport in z106 on G1. The idea for the fighter is that it will move to the airbase on UK1 and then on to UK on UK2 in time to defend against sealion G3. So why not just add the extra fighter to UK? Why bother putting it in Canada at all if if doesn’t defend z106 G1?
Because that way UK can’t use that fighter in attacks in turn 1 (and 2)
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By the way, if that fighter should be able to reach UK in turn 1 but not be able to scramble at SZ106, Iceland would be a neat place to put it ;)
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