G40 League House Rule project

[gamerman01]

I also see Bold(x) beat Karl once.
We need a lot more games like that, between experienced players who are very competent especially with one of their sides.

How long did that game go, guys?  Was it close?

[gamerman01]

If you know who played which side in any of the “unknowns”, please let me know.

Interesting stats:
Tier 1 players are 35-9 with Axis, 35-13 with Allies
Tier1+
Tier2 players are 42-18 with Axis, 37-20 with Allies

All players are 46-41 with Axis (41-46 with Allies)

Again, because there is so much inexperience involved, I myself would NOT conclude that Axis have the slight edge.  Also, as in previous versions of A&A, it is easier for inexperienced players to win with the Axis because they don’t have to plan as many complicated strategies and coordinate powers nearly as much.

We’ll see what it looks like after we have more results from moree experienced players going head to head

[allweneedislove]

thank you gamerman for all the work.
i love all the stats you are putting together.

to clear up the unknown beside mine and suprise attack’s names, i was allies.

i assume it is too time consuming to track all the bids, but that would be awesome.

[gamerman01]

Thanks for the note -

I didn’t do bids because there has been such consistency.  The vast majority of bids have been between 3 and 10

I will enter the info you just gave me

[Karl7]

I also see Bold(x) beat Karl once.
We need a lot more games like that, between experienced players who are very competent especially with one of their sides.

How long did that game go, guys?  Was it close?

We’ve played 2 games, a win for each.  We are now on our 3rd playoff.

Bold has been the Axis in all of them.  The first game was kind of wash because I foolishly failed to do a count on Bold’s german tank spearhead when it was preparing to push into the USSR.  Once it started to move, there was nothing I could do.

The second I won as allies.  Bold thinks I diced his Japanese fleet for the win.  I think the Axis were doomed anyway.  Regardless the game ended on a fluke when US took Gibraltar and then UK took Italy on a sneak attack.

Check out the 3rd game.  It’s on round 22 I think.

[Karl7]

Having played the most games second to only Jeff28, I’d say the Axis still have the advantage.  But I think it’s probably less than I initially thought.  I think the bid is most effective shoring up the UK’s forces in the middle east to hit Italy hard round 1.  ALTHOUGH, I will say that even with a good bid the dice can go wildly against you on Taranto even with a sub.

[Jeff28]

Gamer, I think you’re missing my second win vs. Eggman. I was Axis then too.

I don’t know which side is favored at a 9 to 10 bid. The top notch axis player, I imagine.

If the players are new or of equal skill (below some of you math/chess savants), allies should be favored.

Too many battles axis have to avoid getting diced in.

–Jeff

[gamerman01]

@Jeff28:

Gamer, I think you’re missing my second win vs. Eggman. I was Axis then too.

I don’t know which side is favored at a 9 to 10 bid. The top notch axis player, I imagine.

If the players are new or of equal skill (below some of you math/chess savants), allies should be favored.

Too many battles axis have to avoid getting diced in.

–Jeff

I appreciate your analysis - thanks for adding your thoughts!

Updated - shakeup within tier 1

AA Gamer’s League Rankings.xls

[gamerman01]

@Jeff28:

Gamer, I think you’re missing my second win vs. Eggman. I was Axis then too.

You’re right - I missed it the first time but saw it last night.  I didn’t reconcile the Axis/Allies totals with my standings totals, however, or I would have caught it.  I did have the game highlighted as in progress, so I WOULD have asked about it EVENTUALLY, but THANKS!

Fixed

Neither of your PPG changed much or at all, which means you were EGGSPECTED to BEAT the eggs.
Sorry, Eggman - keep improving, man.

AA Gamer’s League Rankings.xls

[wheatbeer]

Speaking of which, next time you update, you can un-highlight (de-highlight?) the open matchs: wheat-Odonis (he conceded that match in September, but may not have reported it) and wheat-Zhukov (he hasn’t posted a turn, or said anything about it, since September and at this point I consider it dead).

[gamerman01]

Thank you Wheat, I’ll do that
So you don’t want/need to report the Odonis game, and you’re letting the Zhukov game go, is that right?

[Eqqman]

@Gamerman01:

Sorry, Eggman - keep improving, man.

I’m still trying to figure out how to crack the Air/Naval Base combo at Kangsi(?).  If Japan refuses battle you’re pretty much screwed trying to help India & China.  You can sit there continuing to do 100% naval buys, but by turn 3 Japan can basically match your income so you’ll never come out ahead thanks to the ungodly Air Force they start with.  Not a big surprise since Japan is pretty much unbeatable in the stand alone Pacific-version… having to worry about the stack of Russian infantry really doesn’t slow them down that much.

Anyway, that’s a rant for a different thread.

[gamerman01]

@Eggman:

I’m still trying to figure out how to crack the Air/Naval Base combo

Man, the puns just don’t stop.  Especially when you throw in the unintended ones

[gamerman01]

@Eggman:

I’m still trying to figure out how to crack the Air/Naval Base combo at Kangsi(?).  If Japan refuses battle you’re pretty much screwed trying to help India & China.  You can sit there continuing to do 100% naval buys, but by turn 3 Japan can basically match your income so you’ll never come out ahead thanks to the ungodly Air Force they start with.  Not a big surprise since Japan is pretty much unbeatable in the stand alone Pacific-version… having to worry about the stack of Russian infantry really doesn’t slow them down that much.

Anyway, that’s a rant for a different thread.

You have some good thoughts.
Did you see the OOB setup?  Japan had even more air.  And Germany/Italy had less, I believe.  It was a huge mismatch when you put them together.  If you sent 5 Japanese fighters/tacs to Europe, you upset the whole balance of power in Europe  :lol:

Love the games, Larry, but sometimes I don’t know what is wrong with you.
Also, the UNLIMITED scramble rules (but only on islands.  Japan is an island, UK is not).  Oh my goodness.  You’d have the Allies building an airbase on Java and stacking 10 fighters there (in other games - I never saw it in mine).

Well, it took him awhile to come around, but we finally (2 years later) have a pretty good game in Global.  Yes, P40 is still messed up and is pretty much a joke (No Russia, trapped UK fleet, half a USA where San Fran is the capital, nowhere for them to go since they’re on the edge of the map too).

But yeah, like you said, another thread.

I would advise that you pull up a game between 2 very successful players and see what they are doing in SE Asia, for both sides.

[gamerman01]

I think a lot of players are finding that Japan can fold up really quickly, maybe more often than you would think.  They have an awful lot of enemies, islands to worry about, regenerating Chinese that can pop up anywhere, etc etc.

I find Japan to be the hardest power to play - no contest.

[wheatbeer]

The Odonis game ended during the 2012 season. I’m not worried about whether or not that’s reflected in the record.
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The Zhukov game, I don’t know how forfeits are handled here. The match is only at J2 though, so I wouldn’t say I deserve victory credit.

[gamerman01]

OK, I’m clear on that now - thanks for the explanations.

Zhukov is back and playing again.  Maybe you guys could resume the game?

[gamerman01]

Oh, I just saw that you asked him the same thing 11 days ago.  He hasn’t responded?  That’s weird.  Send him a PM maybe.

You guys don’t have to finish it just because I’m asking about it.  Just thought you’d want to, since Zhukov is back and playing several league G40 games now.

[gamerman01]

I count 55 games currently in progress (all of which have a post in the past 10 days), Bold

Yes, I’d say your Renaissance is here

Some of ya’lls bosses need to be called.  6 games at a time?

The government’s threatening to take away our GUNS, not our Axis and Allies sets.

Updated with games in progress.

Yellow means 2 games in progress.

AA Gamer’s League Rankings.xls

[boldfresh]

@Gamerman01:

The government’s threatening to take away our GUNS, not our Axis and Allies sets.

Axis and Allies may not be far behind…  probably all war games will be banned by extension.  :lol: