G40 League House Rule project

[gamerman01]

@DarthMaximus:

I’m wondering if you considered dividing pts by games played to come with with a players average pts per game?

Good question - yes, I did.  While it’s possible to gain more points by playing more games, I still don’t think playing more games is really a big advantage.  Comparing Bold and Tyzoq is logical, because Tyzoq had 6 games completed, and Bold had 26.

But notice that Bold has 10 points and Tyzoq 8!  They are locked up in a 50 round game - is that not evenly matched?  I admit my system is somewhat simplistic, but I think it’s better than the BCS at least!  :-)

Put another way, based on my point ranking system, I doubt that if Tyzoq played 26 games against a balanced variety of players that he would go 22-4.  Based on his comments above, I think he would agree.

In my opinion, the fact that Bold and Tyzoq have close to the same # of points even though Bold played 26 and Tyzoq only played 6 is a testament to the effectiveness of my simple system.  :-)

[dutchmand]

@Gamerman01:

Of course Dutchman’s going to talk him up, Dutch you’re the only “statement win” that Tyzoq had last year!  :-) :-)

Hey, I’ll say this, in the the two recorded loses I had this season in the league, I got the holy hell kicked out of me, and it had nothing to do with dice.  Props Bold and Tyzok, who are every bit as skilled as I am at this hobby of ours.

[gamerman01]

Sometimes a player’s style/strategy matches up well against another’s.  Don’t you think?

[Guest]

@Gamerman01:

I admit my system is somewhat simplistic, but I think it’s better than the BCS at least!  :-)

AMEN to that!!! Way better than the BCS  :-D

[gamerman01]

Standings attached
3 games recorded

2012 League standings.xls

[gamerman01]

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2012 League standings.xls

[gamerman01]

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2012 League standings.xls

[gamerman01]

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2012 League standings.xls

[gamerman01]

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SouL on top!

2012 League standings.xls

[LuckyLindy]

@Gamerman01:

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SouL on top!

That was my Christmas present to him.  He won’t be there too long I predict  :wink:

[souL]

I earned that present!  …with ridiculous dicings :)

[gamerman01]

:-)

[gamerman01]

Updated
SouL and Darth lead with 5 points each

2012 League standings.xls

[DarthMaximus]

I have a quick question.

At some point are you going to reallocate how many pts you get per win (over each player)?

I’ll use us as an example.  I got 3 pts for beating you, but should I?  You are currently 0-1 (which would be a 1 pt victory for the current year).  I know you are taking 2011 results into account, but players will technically be moving up and down between the 1-3 pt levels (at least for the current year).  At some point are you going to switch over and just base things on 2012 or keep using cumulative results for pts?  But even then people may be moving up/down in levels.
If so, I’d suggest maybe just adding a column (2011 record) after the pts column.  So you can at least see a quick glance of why someone was worth a certain amount of pts for victory.  I’m too lazy to click tabs.  Lol!  Maybe have the 2011 record column then a total record column??

Essentially getting something like:

2012 record / 2012 pts / 2011 record / 2011 pts / total record / total pts

The 2011 values would be fixed since we completed that last year but the 2012 values would fluctuate as more people finish games and people move up and down the standings. (total would fluctuate too due to 2012 changes).  Then 2012 would become fixed at the end of the year.

This is one of the reasons we did away with our old scoring system (more pts for beating better players) because it got to be too much micro management in that players throughout the year will move up and down in standings and pt value.  Meaning everytime a player dropped a level or moved up a level you had to recalculate pts for every player that played that person.

Just some thoughts.

[gamerman01]

@Gamerman01:

These rankings are unofficial, and subjective.

3)  I will post my subjective point rankings, which are designed to reflect strength of opponents.  (Because players can choose to play who-ever, and there is no schedule)

Here is the methodology for the point rankings:

1)  I will consider the 2012 and 2011 league standings in determining quality of wins/losses from 2012 league results.
2)  I will divide all league participants into 3 tiers, based on past records (2012, 2011)
3)  I will award points for wins.  3 points against top tier, 2 points against mid-tier, and 1 point against lower tier.
     I will deduct points for losses.  1 point against top tier, 2 points against mid-tier, and 3 points against lower tier.

Note that your point rankings will change not only when you complete a game, but they could change up or down if you or your past opponents move up or down tiers.

I do not plan to change the point ranking system during the year, but will consider suggestions or comments for improvement for subsequent years.

To reiterate, this ranking thread is for fun, and nothing else.  Enjoy.

Selected parts of my original post.
Here is what I am doing:
I am counting the COMBINED TOTAL of 2011 and 2012 results.
For this very reason that you have listed.  I am not a lower tier opponent.  I lost one game this year and have not recorded any wins yet.  But considering 2011 together with 2012 gives us the best picture of the strength of a player.
Recalculations are a necessity at times but will not happen terribly often.  I can recalculate point totals when a player moves up or down a tier in a matter of minutes, especially because I’m tracking all results in a matrix.
Thanks for the input - I asked for input like yours for consideration for future years (I’m not going to change methods midstream)
So just accept your moment of glory on top of the standings and quit trying to argue your points down!  :lol:

[gamerman01]

@DarthMaximus:

I got 3 pts for beating you, but should I?Â

Well yes!  You probably should have received even more!  :-D

[Guest]

:-D

[gamerman01]

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2012 League standings.xls

[gamerman01]

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2012 League standings.xls

[DarthMaximus]

Soul is on fire!