2012 - AA50-41 - League Rules

[Jennifer]

@JWW:

@Cmdr:

It’s been FOREVER, how many Victory Cities do the Axis need to win?�Â

14

4 - Game & rules default - AA50-41 setup, ADS, NO’s, No Tech, 14 VC, Allied bid, full bid placement.Â

That’s all but 4 VCs on the board?  Or am I missing some?  Or basically global domination with the exception of the United States (the ones that were actually states in WWII) and one other allied capitol?

01-Leningrad
02-Stalingrad
03-Moscow
04-Warsaw
05-Berlin
06-Rome
07-Paris
08-London
09-Toronto
10-Washington D.C.
11-Manilla
12-Calcutta
13-Sydney
14-Beijing
15-Hong Kong
16-Tokyo
17-Honolulu
18-San Francisco

[666]

@Cmdr:

That’s all but 4 VCs on the board?  Or am I missing some?  Or basically global domination with the exception of the United States (the ones that were actually states in WWII) and one other allied capitol?

If memory serves OOB rules were 15 VC’s but midway through the year we let players choose between 14, 15 etc…A decision was made to go down to 14 to help speed up the game as it seemed a 15 VC game could go on FOREVER if the allied player held the UK, ECA, EUS & WUS.

[gamerman01]

You are right, JWW.
OOB default is 15 (all but 3), with options for total, 15, or 13.  (13 being called “projection”)

14 is what Larry “meant”  :-D
IMO 14 is most similar to the default level of victory in the other versions of Axis and Allies.
I have NEVER played a game on-line to the point where a player had 15 cities.  I don’t know if I have ever played one even to 14 cities.  The identity of the victor is almost always obvious even before 14 cities are controlled at the end of USA’s turn, therefore even the house rule JWW has established of 14 cities instead of 15 cities has been inconsequential AFAIK.

[Jennifer]

Which is a great discussion and all, but my question was if there was a mere 18 Victory Cities on the board in total. lol

[gamerman01]

@Cmdr:

It’s been FOREVER, how many Victory Cities do the Axis need to win?��Â

That’s all but 4 VCs on the board?  Or am I missing some?  Or basically global domination with the exception of the United States (the ones that were actually states in WWII) and one other allied capitol?

01-Leningrad
02-Stalingrad
03-Moscow
04-Warsaw
05-Berlin
06-Rome
07-Paris
08-London
09-Toronto
10-Washington D.C.
11-Manilla
12-Calcutta
13-Sydney
14-Beijing
15-Hong Kong
16-Tokyo
17-Honolulu
18-San Francisco

I don’t understand you.  You listed the 18 cities so apparently you don’t need to know how many there are, and you made FOUR statements ending in a question mark.  Your questions were such that you were basically asking about all the rules connected to victory cities in AA50, so we answered them.
So I don’t understand why you made that last post at all  :roll:

[Jennifer]

Okay, so there are 18 total and Axis need 14 to win.  That’s all I wanted to know!  Wasn’t sure I had seen them all and was not missing one or two.

[gamerman01]

Right -
Your list looks perfect. 
JWW has decreed 14 cities for 2012.

[gamerman01]

What’s with the little black diamonds with ?? in them?
Jenn, you even have one in your Fleet Murderess tagline!  How’s that happen?
I thought they were just popping up after double spaces after periods…  Guess not

[Jennifer]

@Gamerman01:

What’s with the little black diamonds with ?? in them?
Jenn, you even have one in your Fleet Murderess tagline!�  How’s that happen?
I thought they were just popping up after double spaces after periods…�  Guess not

“Upgraded” Internet Exploder now nothing works right.  I didn’t ask to be updated, mind you, Microsoft just decreed I could no longer refuse the upgrade. /sigh.  I tried downgrading and it really screwed things up, so I’ll stay with it for now.

Appears to be because Djensen hates me:
http://blog.salientdigital.com/2009/06/06/special-characters-showing-up-as-a-question-mark-inside-of-a-black-diamond/

:evil:

[djensen]

I gotta figure out why it changed. It’s really annoying to me as well.

[Guest]

What is meant by full placement of the bid in rule 4b? Does it mean the entire bid has to be spent?

[boldfresh]

@Ol’:

What is meant by full placement of the bid in rule 4b? Does it mean the entire bid has to be spent?

To clarify you mean spent only on units and that money cannot be put in the bank right?

[Guest]

That is correct Bold…can bid IPCs be put in a bank or do they have to be spent?

[gamerman01]

@Ol’:

That is correct Bold…can bid IPCs be put in a bank or do they have to be spent?

You can bank remainders - full placement does not mean you have to place all of your bid in units on the board, it means you can place anywhere on the world (no parts of the world off-limits)

[Guest]

Thanks Gamer

[gamerman01]

You’re welcome!

[U-505]

Actually,“full placement” in my experience meant that you were allowed, though not required, to use your entire bid to purchase units as opposed to “limited placement”, usually half-placement/half cash, which meant that you could only purchase units with a portion of your bid and then the rest was required to be banked as cash. I don’t ever recall a rule that your entire bid MUST be used for units only.

What gamerman01 described:

@Gamerman01:

you can place anywhere on the world (no parts of the world off-limits)

is actually “unrestricted bid placement” as opposed to “restricted bid placement” which restricts bid units from being placed in allied territories, empty sea zones, and empty territories (SOP, I think) and/or restricts the number of units that can be placed in a single territory or sea zone (not sure if it’s SOP or not).

It’s semantics, I know. Plus, I’ve been gone for a while so definitions and rules may have changed since then.

[gamerman01]

Thanks for the clarification

Actually, all those terms were defined before I came along here a few years ago and I never did fully understand them, but I did know for sure that it did NOT mean you couldn’t bank any IPC’s!

A surprise to see you back, U.  The way you disappeared suddenly without explanation, we thought something bad might have happened to you.  Apparently you’re still alive

[U-505]

No problem. IIRC, the term “full placement” came about as an alternative to a DAAK requirement that all bids must be half units/half cash that people playing here were not entirely happy with. That was during the revised era, I think. Maybe even prior.

Actually, I didn’t leave voluntarily. The day I left we had a heavy thunderstorm here and lightning fried my cable. Took a week for the guy to get out here and by then I had immersed myself in all of the tasks I had been procrastinating doing because I was playing A&A all the time. Short story long, it became a cycle of “man, I have to get back to EM and the guys to see how they’re doing” and “But, I’m kinda busy now, I’ll do it tomorrow”. So, “I’ll do it tomorrow” ended up turning into almost 2 years. I’ve been out of the loop so long it even took me 10 minute to relearn how to use battlemap. And now there’s this crazy Global game that I’ve never seen before.

[Guest]

@U-505:

No problem. IIRC, the term “full placement” came about as an alternative to a DAAK requirement that all bids must be half units/half cash that people playing here were not entirely happy with. That was during the revised era, I think. Maybe even prior.

Actually, I didn’t leave voluntarily. The day I left we had a heavy thunderstorm here and lightning fried my cable. Took a week for the guy to get out here and by then I had immersed myself in all of the tasks I had been procrastinating doing because I was playing A&A all the time. Short story long, it became a cycle of “man, I have to get back to EM and the guys to see how they’re doing” and “But, I’m kinda busy now, I’ll do it tomorrow”. So, “I’ll do it tomorrow” ended up turning into almost 2 years. I’ve been out of the loop so long it even took me 10 minute to relearn how to use battlemap. And now there’s this crazy Global game that I’ve never seen before.

Try playing on TripleA  :-D