S03 Gamerman01 (allies +12) v JWW

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@Gamerman01:

@JWW:

Yeah like I said, in far fewer words, you are up. And if you do take this one we will be 1-1 against each other w/two allied wins. I guess I can take some solace away from this by the fact that my allied win against you came on T8 or 9 and you seem to need 18 -19 turns to take me down?  :-P

Well, congratulations to you, too.  Can’t you give a guy credit when he plays well?  Don’t make me recount all the times you got very lucky in the first game, including the disastrous G1 attack on Z2.  :roll:

yeah, yeah, yeah, I beat you and it was the lucky rolls and your up in this game and “you played well”. In the 5-6 years I’ve been playing here I haven’t heard this before?  :lol: Also, it doesn’t need to be mentioned that you play well. It is clearly obvious by any tracking method that we play well. Our league records and advancement in this tourney speak to our game play.

On the chess site I play at they track “blunders”, bad moves you make etc….I have you at one blunder here, your early usa bmb afr landing spot and I have my blunders at the late JPN IC & perhaps ITA navy purchase and perhaps German lack of aggression early? If this analysis is accurate it’s a 3-1 blunder in your favor, which in the absence of crazy dice puts me at a disadvantage. I don’t know how you see the blunders we made? I might add the Russian navy purchase on your side too. maybe it’s 3 -2. maybe

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pathetic dice there….doesn’t help

3 hits for 7 @ 3
2 hits for 17 @ 2
0 hits for 8 @1

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I think the avg D s/b 11 hits. maybe 10. That was FAR less than avg….not good

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G 16 rpr 1 purc arm & 6 inf spend 24 (save 0)

combat
#1 FRA (aa, inf, 3 arm) v 3inf, art, arm & 2 fgt (ger)
#2 nwe (2inf) v 2inf & 3 fgt (2ger 1 blk)
#3 cze (2inf) v 2inf (ger) & 3 fgt (blk)
#4 bul (3inf) v 10inf, art & 15 arm (blk)

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#1 fra aaRolls: 2@1; Total Hits: 12@1: (1, 3)

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FRA attackRolls: 2@3 2@2 2@1; Total Hits: 12@3: (4, 5)2@2: (3, 1)2@1: (4, 5)v inf & 3 armRolls: 1@2 3@3; Total Hits: 31@2: (2)3@3: (1, 5, 2)

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more pain

2nd rdRolls: 2@3 1@2; Total Hits: 22@3: (2, 6)1@2: (2)v 3 armRolls: 3@3; Total Hits: 03@3: (6, 5, 6)

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3rd rdRolls: 2@3 1@2; Total Hits: 22@3: (2, 1)1@2: (6)v armRolls: 1@3; Total Hits: 11@3: (3)

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fra twlo 3inf & art

#2 nwe attackInput ErrorThere was an error in your dice throw: “223” is not correct syntax.v 2infRolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 12@2: (2, 5)

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attack againRolls: 2@3 2@1; Total Hits: 12@3: (1, 4)2@1: (6, 6)

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2nd wave attackRolls: 2@3 1@1; Total Hits: 22@3: (2, 1)1@1: (4)v infRolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)

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nwe twlo inf

cze attackRolls: 2@3 2@1; Total Hits: 12@3: (3, 6)2@1: (5, 2)v 2infRolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 12@2: (4, 1)

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2nd wave attackRolls: 2@3 1@1; Total Hits: 12@3: (2, 4)1@1: (5)v infRolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)

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cze twlo inf

bul attackRolls: 15@3 2@2 9@1; Total Hits: 915@3: (1, 5, 3, 2, 2, 5, 4, 1, 1, 2, 6, 4, 1, 4, 4)2@2: (4, 2)9@1: (5, 2, 4, 3, 4, 4, 2, 2, 3)v 3infRolls: 3@2; Total Hits: 13@2: (4, 1, 6)

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bul tqwlo inf

ncm:
all fgt’s GER
ger 5 arm > bul

G collects 22

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[gamerman01]

@JWW:

On the chess site I play at they track “blunders”, bad moves you make etc….I have you at one blunder here, your early usa bmb afr landing spot and I have my blunders at the late JPN IC & perhaps ITA navy purchase and perhaps German lack of aggression early? If this analysis is accurate it’s a 3-1 blunder in your favor, which in the absence of crazy dice puts me at a disadvantage. I don’t know how you see the blunders we made? I might add the Russian navy purchase on your side too. maybe it’s 3 -2. maybe

Always enjoy thoughtful analysis, especially chess analogies.  My bomber landings in Africa were absolutely a blunder (oversight) as I didn’t see 35-34-Sud-Cng.  As far as “conservative” German play, as you say, that is a big reason this is taking me a lot of rounds to win.  So I think it misleading to brag that you beat me faster than I beat you.

Russian navy was definitely not a blunder.  You may not realize it, but the carrier allowed me to put 2 russian fighters on it which allowed me to reinforce Poland with extra UK fighters, which was just enough to make it a bad idea for you to attack it.  Only Russia can build in Z5 (of the Allies), and putting the destroyer there was, again, just enough to make it a bad idea for you to attack it.  Also, did I really need a couple extra men or a tank for Russia?  I don’t think so.

You evoked my response of “luck” in the first game, because you were bragging about how you beat me faster than I’m beating you.  Also because you got a lot of mileage out of beating me once.  If you wouldn’t keep posting about how you beat me once in league play, you wouldn’t have to listen to the excuses.  :roll:  Do you want me to ascribe the first loss to something other than luck?  How about over-confidence from having not lost a game in nearly a year?  :-)

Might I point out that you won the nearly meaningless game, but the big round 3 tournament game is mine?  So when we’re both bringing our “A” game……  :wink:

Time to keep this game rushing towards its inevitable conclusion!  :-D

[gamerman01]

@JWW:

I think the avg D s/b 11 hits. maybe 10. That was FAR less than avg….not good

The 2’s and the AA fire will be included in my statistics….  Notice which stats you refer to when determining luck.  Not the offense, but the defense.  So you’re agreeing with me about defending AA fire and 2’s being a key indicator of luck.  :-)

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@Gamerman01:

As far as “conservative” German play, as you say, that is a big reason this is taking me a lot of rounds to win.  So I think it misleading to brag that you beat me faster than I beat you.

agreed, I turtled up pretty quick, it will of course take longer to defeat G&I.
@Gamerman01:

Russian navy was definitely not a blunder.  You may not realize it, but the carrier allowed me to put 2 russian fighters on it which allowed me to reinforce Poland with extra UK fighters, which was just enough to make it a bad idea for you to attack it.  Only Russia can build in Z5 (of the Allies), and putting the destroyer there was, again, just enough to make it a bad idea for you to attack it.  Also, did I really need a couple extra men or a tank for Russia?

I thought it would have been a bad idea to attack it w/out the red ships. I think a bmb or arm would have been better but I could of course be wrong…it probably shouldn’t count as a “blunder”
@Gamerman01:

You evoked my response of “luck” in the first game, because you were bragging about how you beat me faster than I’m beating you.

wasn’t bragging. it isn’t worth bragging about just a factual observation.
@Gamerman01:

Also because you got a lot of mileage out of beating me once.

no idea what you are talking about???
@Gamerman01:

If you wouldn’t keep posting about how you beat me once in league play, you wouldn’t have to listen to the excuses.  :roll:

???
@Gamerman01:

Do you want me to ascribe the first loss to something other than luck?  How about over-confidence from having not lost a game in nearly a year?  :-)[\quote] it doesn’t matter what you ascribe the loss to, unless of course it bothers you that much that it makes you feel better?. I won’t make reference to it again.
@Gamerman01:

Might I point out that you won the nearly meaningless game, but the big round 3 tournament game is mine?  So when we’re both bringing our “A” game……  :wink: Time to keep this game rushing towards its inevitable conclusion!  :-D

no game is meaningless!!! This one isn’t over yet! And this is my A game!! Have a good thanksgiving!

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@Gamerman01:

@JWW:

I think the avg D s/b 11 hits. maybe 10. That was FAR less than avg….not good

The 2’s and the AA fire will be included in my statistics….  Notice which stats you refer to when determining luck.  Not the offense, but the defense.  So you’re agreeing with me about defending AA fire and 2’s being a key indicator of luck.  :-)

I referred, to all the dice my side threw that turn, 1’s,2’s & 3’s and the outcome being below avg. I would disagree with you about defensive two’s and aa fire being a key indicator to calculating luck. A Key indicator imo would be O & D 2’s and 3". probably the most often dice thrown. but it is an argument we can discuss later… need to carve the bird soon. speak later. have a good day!

[gamerman01]

Russian fleet also guards against German destroyer blocks vs. UK

R16 with 44, buy 8 INF, 4 ARM

Combat moves -
Far - ARM (Yak) blitz and back
StC - ARM (Yak) blitz and back
Sik - ARM (Chi) blitz to Hup

NCM -
EPl - 11 INF, 2 ART, ARM, AA (Pol) 2 INF (BSt)
BSt - 2 INF (Kar)
EUk - 3 ARM (Pol) 3 INF, 3 ARM (Rus) 4 INF (Cau)
Cau - AA (Ukr)
Kaz - AA (Cau)
Bel - AA (BSt)
Z7 - DD (Z5)
Hup - 2 ARM (Chi) 4 INF, ART, AA (Nin) 3 ARM, 2 FTR (Sui)

Place 3 INF, ARM (Cau)
Place 2 INF (Kar)
Place 3 INF, 3 ARM (Rus)
Collect 44, 44 on hand

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