Neutral Set

[HBG]

@kcdzim:

How about for a Tac, the Swedish Saab 17.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_17

Especially as the Italian planes noted above are already the Italian tac and bomber by FMG.

I like it!!!

[cminke]

one thing that MIGHT be worth it is maybe 2 more inf,–1 as pro allied, one as pro axis,

[WARRIOR888]

Coach, Excellent list. I agree with IL go with the other aircraft for a TAC.  Much better choice. I already wat too many P-38s.
Cheers

[DrLarsen]

@Imperious:

I have a list of pieces for HBG Neutral set that will be done in White (Strict Neutral), Orange (Dutch), Light grey (Pro-Axis), light green (pro-Allies)
Please discuss the list and any changes you would like to see or if you like the list, let me know that too!

These look really great…

Infantry - Dutch Soldier
Infantry - Polish Soldier
Artillery - 75mm 7 veld …perfect
Armored Car - Wz-34  or how bout this site: http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/244451 (DAF M39)
Tank - 7Tp  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7TP
Fighter - Fokker DXXI
Tac - Fokker G1  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_G.I, i hate anything that looks like a p-38.
Transport - Arundo
Sub - Orzel class
Destroyer - Admiralen Class
Cruiser - DeRuyter Class

Everything is in order and are good looking choices except the tactical bomber, which looks too modern.

alternatives:

in spain they used http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savoia-Marchetti_SM-81
also this looks even better…http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=814

It makes no sense to do Italian models for the neutrals, considering that we already have a full range of German, Italian, and Axis Minor sculpts (and Coach has already announced that he has more German variants coming on top of that…)  Between all of the different neutral/ minor countries, surely there’s a more unique sculpt he could choose!

I can understand that the criticism that it looks too much like a P-38, though the argument that it looks too “modern” makes no sense.  It looks like what it is, which is not especially modern by WW2 standards.  Even the P-38 itself was more an early-war than a late-war model.  In the West it was destined to be almost entirely replaced late-war by P-47 and P-51 fighters.  (Note, btw, the much higher numbers in the model designations of the later models: there were nine other proposed fighter designs in between the P-38 and the P-47… and even the P-40 was a later design!)

[Variable]

Pics of the Neutrals are up on Historical Board Gaming’s Facebook page! Go check it out…

[knp7765]

I was checking out the Neutral sculpts and noticed in the back what looks like some sort of truck.  In the list of different units, there is no truck listed.  Is this a new addition?  What model is it?

I am assuming it would go with the “2” quantity pieces, so there will be 8 infantry instead of 10?

[Variable]

I’ve been asking Coach about this but he’s been hush hush even to me… I’ll keep after him  :wink:

EDIT: Just got my answer. It’s a Polish truck and yes it will reduce the infantry count to 8 per set giving 2 trucks instead.

[Variable]

New pic of all the neutral sculpts… won’t be too long now!

[HBG]

Two minor changes.
I asked them to redo the helmet on the Infantry Soldier and square off the destroyer back end of the ship so that it matches the OOB pieces. Too hard to tell pieces apart sometimes. Just a couple days and they will be approved.

[Variable]

A couple more looks at the above pieces. As Coach mentioned, this are not quite final yet until the changes are done.

[virtualpender]

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

[CWO Marc]

Looking good!

[KOOLHOVEN]

Just preordered 8 sets! This set will really be hard to beat(except maybe by an update of the same)!

[Gargantua]

They are very reminiscent of the original axis and allies pieces! I like it!

[Yavid]

Coach does the Yellow Green match the OOB of the chinese? or is there another set you have that matches OOB China?

[Variable]

Here’s a pic of the yellow-green neutrals next to an OOB Chinese infantry. Not a perfect match. We currently don’t have any other pieces that come close to this color.

[Yavid]

that looks close enough for me.

[Bob_A_Mickelson]

@Variable:

Here’s a pic of the yellow-green neutrals next to an OOB Chinese infantry. Not a perfect match. We currently don’t have any other pieces that come close to this color.

Is the match closer than oob revised uk sea foam green? How close is light green to oob revised uk sea foam green?

[virtualpender]

The neutral light green set is VERY different from the Revised UK light green. You can easily tell them apart on the table.

The yellow-green isn’t a perfect match for G40 China but its pretty close. Close enough that it would be confusing if you attempted to use both on the same board.

Hope this helps!

[Variable]

@Bob_A_Mickelson:

Is the match closer than oob revised uk sea foam green?

Yes

@Bob_A_Mickelson:

How close is light green to oob revised uk sea foam green?

Not even close. The light green neutrals are more of a bright minty kind of color. Like that fake light green of mint ice cream. The color reminds me of a piece of decorative glass.