Ukr
A-2art arm bmr
Rolls: 2@2 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 12@2: (4, 6)1@3: (6)1@4: (2)
D-arm
Rolls: 1@3; Total Hits: 01@3: (4)
Ukr twlo inf
NCM
bmr Ukr => Ger
ftr Bst => Ger
ftr Bel => Ger
ftr Euk => Ger
3inf Pol => Epl
3arm Ger => Epl
5inf art Ger => Fra
Mobilize
3inf 2art 3arm ftr bmr in Ger
Collect: 48
Just realized I had to fix the map. I had move the 3inf and art from Lib to Egy for an attack, but forgot to list it or post it. So I moved them back on the map.
R3 - with 34 buys 2 arm, ftr, acc
CM
ukr (2 art, arm) - 4 inf, arm (cau)
bry (2 inf) - 4 inf (stc)
bel (inf) - 7 inf, art (kar)
combat:
ukr - 4 inf, arm vs. 2 art, arm
Rolls: 4@1 1@3; Total Hits: 14@1: (4, 1, 3, 6)1@3: (6)
Rolls: 2@2 1@3; Total Hits: 02@2: (3, 4)1@3: (5)
shoot i see i didn’t list an attack. realized it the moment i clicked post, tried to go back on the browser but the dang thing posted…
the remaining inf, art in karelia was going to bst. let me know if you have a problem with that.
having typed bel and bry i guess i thought i had typed it.
should have read:
R3 - with 34 buys 2 arm, ftr, acc
CM
bst (inf) - inf, art (kar)
ukr (2 art, arm) - 4 inf, arm (cau)
bry (2 inf) - 4 inf (stc)
bel (inf) - 7 inf, art (kar)
just to make sure it’s completely clean, I’ll go ahead and start the rolling round over. :|
ukr 1 - first round moot
Rolls: 4@1 1@3; Total Hits: 24@1: (6, 2, 3, 1)1@3: (2)
Rolls: 2@2 1@3; Total Hits: 02@2: (4, 4)1@3: (4)
ukr 2
Rolls: 4@1 1@3; Total Hits: 14@1: (4, 2, 3, 3)1@3: (3)
Rolls: 1@3; Total Hits: 01@3: (4)
ukr cwol
bst - 7 inf, art vs. inf
Rolls: 6@1 2@2; Total Hits: 16@1: (6, 6, 3, 6, 3, 1)2@2: (4, 5)
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)
bel cwol
bry - 4 inf vs. 2 inf (holding my breath, waiting for the other shoe to drop)
Rolls: 4@1; Total Hits: 14@1: (5, 1, 2, 5)
Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 12@2: (2, 3)
bry 2
Rolls: 3@1; Total Hits: 13@1: (6, 1, 6)
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)
bry cwlo inf
bst - inf, art vs. inf
Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 02@2: (6, 6)
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (4)
bst 2
Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 12@2: (3, 2)
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (5)
bst cwol
wow, that was one of the best Russian rounds I think I’ve ever had!!
NC
euk - inf, AA (cau), 3 inf, arm, AA (rus)
ukr - inf (cau), arm (rus)
bel - AA (kar)
z3 - sub (z2)
chi - inf (nov), arm (rus)
yak - 3 inf (stc)
cau - 2 arm (rus)
place 2 arm (cau)
place ftr, acc (z5)
collect 34, has 34
shoot i see i didn’t list an attack. realized it the moment i clicked post, tried to go back on the browser but the dang thing posted…
the remaining inf, art in karelia was going to bst. let me know if you have a problem with that.
having typed bel and bry i guess i thought i had typed it.
well, that is a little different than a walk-in where there is no battle to be fought…gotta think about it I guess since it costs Germany big time
@Ol’:
Just realized I had to fix the map. I had move the 3inf and art from Lib to Egy for an attack, but forgot to list it or post it. So I moved them back on the map.
You will notice I did the same thing with Germany in North Africa, just before Russia’s turn. Since it was an actual battle and not a walk-in, I did not ask for the battle to take place since I figured it should have been listed. Therefore, I would ask it stand as originally listed with the first round of Ukraine as it was with 1 hit. No need to re-roll Bry and Bel, but just pick up Ukrane from the original roll.
let’s report it to the moderators for a ruling. i wasn’t trying to pull anything over on you OBG, I only re-rolled the first roll because it was entirely beneficial to me and I did not see how it could possibly hurt you or why you would not be willing to allow the untyped combat move since only one roll had been made and that roll was completely benefical to me and entirely unbeneficial to you. i am sorry that i didn’t just stop it right there after the first roll and ask you the question, but I do not see why we cannot use the rolls as rolled and just remove the bst combat move.
i think the fairest way to go is to leave the rolls as rolled and for the combat move at BST to be negated, which is your right to refuse. i do not see any reason to re-roll ukraine when the rolls have already been made and can only improve in your favor.
It does hurt me by taking away an extra defender in Ukraine and the second wave attack that would have taken place. As I said in the message I sent you, I have asked the moderators to resolve it for us since we cannot come to an agreement on this.
let’s report it to the moderators for a ruling. i wasn’t trying to pull anything over on you OBG, I only re-rolled the first roll because it was entirely beneficial to me and I did not see how it could possibly hurt you or why you would not be willing to allow the untyped combat move since only one roll had been made and that roll was completely benefical to me and entirely unbeneficial to you. i am sorry that i didn’t just stop it right there after the first roll and ask you the question, but I do not see why we cannot use the rolls as rolled and just remove the bst combat move.
i think the fairest way to go is to leave the rolls as rolled and for the combat move at BST to be negated, which is your right to refuse. i do not see any reason to re-roll ukraine when the rolls have already been made and can only improve in your favor.
I have been sent a message from the boards to a moderator to look into this. I have sent each of you, in the same email, a question about my need to intervene. I would prefer you two to resolve this amicably. Let me know if I must review and make a ruling.
i really do not understand the objection. seems to me the battle of ukraine was already rolled. if you use the first two rolls, the battle is over.
in other words, what I’m saying OBG is I don’t see why it’s not perfectly valid to use the second roll of ukr as the round 2 roll. i think dice as rolled should always be used if possible, and all you would need to do in this case is remove one of your twos from the second round roll and the battle is decided. that and the disallowing of the battle of bst and we should be good. but i’m certainly willing to have an objective third party look at this if you insist. again, the only reason i rerolled the battle was so you could not object, thinking I had an unfair advantage of seeing a positive roll then adding a combat move. the roll was GOOD for me, not bad. you aren’t thinking that I added the combat move in order to reroll the round 1 because I was not happy with 1 attacker hit, 0 defender hits are you?
just think about it and let me know if you still do not agree.
Actually, I thought your entire move after your first post was illegally done since you posted and rolled…and thus should be redone after the first attack in Ukraine. Fruit of the poisonous tree so to speak. However, I tried to be amicable by agreeing to allow Bry and Bel to stand when I did not have to do so in my eyes. But since you insist on going through all this, I sent a message to JWW saying no ruling would be needed since I am resigning. I would rather be done with it and do not want a similar situation like you had with gamerman. Good luck to you and I ask that you refrain from posting any comments in my other games. You may post your victory. Thank you.
