Major IC in Romania G1

[ozimek1]

30 IPC’s is a lot. That is 30 infantry units built in Berlin that you can upgrade to Mech inf for the same price. Mech inf from Berlin will reach Moscow faster than regular inf from Romania.

[special forces]

@ozimek1:

30 IPC’s is a lot. That is 30 infantry units built in Berlin that you can upgrade to Mech inf for the same price. Mech inf from Berlin will reach Moscow faster than regular inf from Romania.

Exactly, and they can also change direction much faster when it is needed.

[Young Grasshopper]

@ozimek1:

30 IPC’s is a lot. That is 30 infantry units built in Berlin that you can upgrade to Mech inf for the same price. Mech inf from Berlin will reach Moscow faster than regular inf from Romania.

I like what your saying, I just don’t understand the math. In our games, infantry cost $3 each.

[Piet Hein]

True, but only under the assumption that you will build inf in Rom, which doesnt make sense - if you build mechs in Rom they reach Moscow faster than mechs from Germany

[special forces]

@Trisdin:

@ozimek1:

30 IPC’s is a lot. That is 30 infantry units built in Berlin that you can upgrade to Mech inf for the same price. Mech inf from Berlin will reach Moscow faster than regular inf from Romania.

I like what your saying, I just don’t understand the math. In our games, infantry cost $3 each.

30 Inf + 1 Maj IC = 30 Mech

And if mechs start from West Germany, even then they still arrive 1 turn faster in Moskou than INFs made in Rumenia. (not counting obstacles, of course)

[Xandax]

@Trisdin:

@ozimek1:

30 IPC’s is a lot. That is 30 infantry units built in Berlin that you can upgrade to Mech inf for the same price. Mech inf from Berlin will reach Moscow faster than regular inf from Romania.

I like what your saying, I just don’t understand the math. In our games, infantry cost $3 each.

He means that you can buy 30 mech inf in Berlin for the cost of the IC in Romania and 30 normal inf with the added bonus of 2 space movement for the mech.
Not quite sure what the point is other than 30 IPC for a IC is expensive and possible could be spend better.

[ozimek1]

@Piet:

True, but only under the assumption that you will build inf in Rom, which doesnt make sense - if you build mechs in Rom they reach Moscow faster than mechs from Germany

Not really,  :mrgreen:  at least not if you count the turn it takes to build the IC.

[rocknroll]

i have to agree to “special forces”. this major IC is waste of money. and: i think a lot of poeple underestimate the ability of the mechanized infantry to move two spaces.
invest in mechanized infantry instead of a major or minor IC in romania.

[JeffM]

The more games that I play, the more value I see in the Germans buying naval units in the Baltic sea to threaten the UK.  Even if you don’t go for an operation Sea Lion, I think that the fleet is helpful in keeping the UK off balance, and at the very least it helps facilitate a northern attack against the Russians on G3 (and it strengthens the Italian position in the med).

I think that the benefits of buying naval units on G1 outweigh the advantage of the Major IC (and you only have the resources to do one or the other).  I think that the best bet is to buy fleet on G1 and mech inf on G2 to hit Russia on G3.

[knp7765]

@Piet:

the Russians can’t declare war on Germany though so that’s an unlikely scenario plus if they would take it, it would convert to a minor

Ugh!  Yeah, I’m getting my rounds confused and forgot about the captured Majors reverting to Minors.  Still, even with a minor IC in Romania and if it was after round 4, if the Russians took it that would be a major blow to Germany.
I agree with naval purchases on G1.  In my last game, I failed to completely destroy the Royal Navy and lost a lot of Luftwaffe.  What I did manage to do was kill the UK transports wo while they had warships, they had no way of getting troops over to Europe.  So, I stacked up on Denmark and hid my fleet behind the Denmark straight and used transports to ferry men and artillery to Norway instead of placing an IC there.
Also, I didn’t place an IC in Romania and my southern army ended up getting creamed by a strong Russian force down there.  Fortunately, it cost the Russians a number of casualties and since my tanks and mechs from Berlin could reach, the Russians never made it past Bessarabia.  It took about 3 rounds, but I eventually cleared the Ukraine pockets and captured that IC.  A round or two later, Germany took Moscow and Stalingrad.  So maybe it’s best not to go the expense of an IC in Romania, especially not a Major.

[Young Grasshopper]

I’m starting to realize that Mechanized Infantry should be Germanys weapon of choice, especially on the eastern front. However, I’m still thinking about a Minor IC in Romania (later in the game) just so I can combine a few artillery each turn.

[Xandax]

@Trisdin:

I’m starting to realize that Mechanized Infantry should be Germanys weapon of choice, especially on the eastern front. However, I’m still thinking about a Minor IC in Romania (later in the game) just so I can combine a few artillery each turn.

Mech inf. can’t stand alone.
They should be along for speed and fodder. Not the weapon of choice. You need something that can kill off the enemy - not just soak up the damage they do to you.

[Razor]

@Trisdin:

However, I’m still thinking about a Minor IC in Romania (later in the game) just so I can combine a few artillery each turn.

I was thinking:
Buy 7 artillery turn 1. (save 2 ipc)
Also move all starting artillery to Russia. (use planes to kill the French, and limit the naval battles to kill UK trannies and destroyers)
Now you got a lot of artillery on the eastern frontline that later mech buys can exploit.

[Young Grasshopper]

@Xandax:

@Trisdin:

I’m starting to realize that Mechanized Infantry should be Germanys weapon of choice, especially on the eastern front. However, I’m still thinking about a Minor IC in Romania (later in the game) just so I can combine a few artillery each turn.

Mech inf. can’t stand alone.
They should be along for speed and fodder. Not the weapon of choice. You need something that can kill off the enemy - not just soak up the damage they do to you.

Mechs, tanks, and aircraft is a speedy attack force for the eastern front but that could get pricy.

[Young Grasshopper]

@Razor:

@Trisdin:

However, I’m still thinking about a Minor IC in Romania (later in the game) just so I can combine a few artillery each turn.

I was thinking:
Buy 7 artillery turn 1. (save 2 ipc)
Also move all starting artillery to Russia. (use planes to kill the French, and limit the naval battles to kill UK trannies and destroyers)
Now you got a lot of artillery on the eastern frontline that later mech buys can exploit.

I wouldn’t do that personaly.