@SuperbattleshipYamato hard to argue against any of this really. The IJN was so far gone by this point in the war that there’s not really much they could have done to salvage their situation one way or another. The bit about the allies not having many LSTs in general is something I never knew before though.
Visiting Battlefields
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I once visited the ex-German WWII U-boat pens in St-Nazaire (which are open to tourists) and saw from a distance the ones in Brest (which are still used by the French Navy and are in the restricted military area of the city’s port). Also found by accident a small Atlantic Wall bunker in southwest Britanny. During my visit to the St-Nazaire pens, I picked up as a souvenir a copper U-boat paperweight / pencil sharpener, which is sitting two feet away from me on my desk as I type this.
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i have not been to any battlefields state side, but saw many of the areas where the Korean conflict took place. I was stationed in S.Korea for a year and went every where i could possibly go. The Pusan Perimeter was pretty cool, and so was the 38th parallel. Kinda neat eating chow while overlooking N. Korea.
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common guys that can´t be serious…they found another bomb dropped by the Allies in WW II. in the town where I live…does that count as actual standing in Battlefield?, If not I´m kinda dissapointed :x…hey, makes you kinda think were you walking…the officals say it was a 250 kilo one, …would have made a bigger hole in the constructionsite that´s for sure!..
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Oops!
Today is the anniversary of the Battle of Bosworth(1485). Possibly the second most important battle in English history. Saw the end of the House of York(Richard III, Gloucester, last English monarch killed in battle) and the setting up of the Lancastrian Henry ,father of Henry VIII, later known as Tudor.
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@wittmann:
Richard III, Gloucester, last English monarch killed in battle
That’s an interesting bit of trivia of which I wasn’t aware. I wonder if he would have been considered to have lost that title if George VI had been killed by a Luftwaffe bomb during the Battle of Britain? (As I recall, a bomb did hit the royal palace at one point. George’s wife Elizabeth supposedly later declared in public that she was glad about this because “it makes me feel closer to the people in the East End.”)
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And I had not heard that.
I think England needed the Royal Family, so it would have been a blow to public morale and a great propaganda victory for Goebbles.
Elizabeth would have been the longest reigning monarch already. She is certain to beat Vicoria’s 63 year reign as it is.
Richard III is my favourite monarch. He was a Medieval man who reached the pinnacle of acheivment and died bravely. He saw the battle was in the balance and his “ally” was in the process of defecting, spotting The Pretender, he took his personal guard and charged him. He killed his standard bearer, but was unhorsed, surrounded and probably dispatched by a Welsh Polearmed infantryman. -
I don’t have any particular opinions on Richard III one way or another, but he did get some rather bad press from William Shakespeare, with subsequent help from various people like Laurence Olivier.
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I love Shakespeare’s Richard III. Ghastly arse licking and fawning to the establishment, but what a villain to play!
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I’ve been to Greenhalgh Castle.
Where Cromwell got his a$s-kicked…
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What a joke. Unless I was drunk when I visited, cannot remember the castle. I must have gone. I was 10 miles away from it at Lancaster University long before you two were born.
I have always loved castles, so is weird.
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I’ve been to Hastings, where the last Anglo-Saxon king (Harold II) was defeated by that fellow from Normandy and Britain came under French domination for a while – sort of D-Day in reverse. I’ve also visited HMS Belfast, the WWII Royal Navy light cruiser that’s moored in the Thames; it particiated in the Battle of North Cape, in which the German battlecruiser Scharnhorst was sunk. Also visited the former Royal Yacht Britannia in Leith (Edinburgh’s port), which of course isn’t a warship but which did participate (as I recall) in the Falklands War as a hospital ship, and which evacuated about a thousand people from the civil war in Aden in 1986.
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And another one…
Another 250 kilo bomb was found ,this time in Munich not Nürnberg like the last one…They had to detonate her in the housing by Schwabing.
3000 peeps evacuated , houses catched some fire, but was imediatly under control by firemens…After all, there are still 100 000 out there, government knows mostly were they are but not release the location because they are afraid of the costs…so they still gamble…Psalms 91 is all I´M saying…
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@wittmann:
I love Shakespeare’s Richard III.
This may interest you:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-19561018
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Would be great if they were his remains. I had understood they were lost.
They would not announce it willy nilly, but am sceptical.
Will go and see them if proven. Thanks.
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@wittmann:
Do you get the BBC news on Twitter?
No, I just have a look at their news site periodically.
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as you guessed allready correctly, we found another 250 kilo one…it was one from England and hard to find since they only bombed at nighttime…OH these Englanders…
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Anyone would have thought you started the damn war!
Must be scary not knowing when another might be found.
I have been sayin for ages I want to see Berlin. Al wants to go too. Soon.
The plan had been to go to Sicily(never been) in 3 weeks. My in laws asked at the last minute if we would take them to Florence.
Grr! Already been this year.
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England did start World War II. :D
Germany only started the war in Poland…
And the war in Poland was started because of the Danzin ‘crisis’.
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England did start World War II. :D
Germany only started the war in Poland…
And the war in Poland was started because of the Danzin ‘crisis’.
I´m puzzled now, I thought the Polish started all that because they didn´t like the music this certain Radiostation played all the time?!… :? :? :?
anyhow, I think it counts as visiting a battlefield all the time by beeing surrounded by all this dropoffs wich get found more frequently yet…
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World War Two was caused by that dreaded Gleiwitz Radio station broadcasting blasphemy and a few dead German political prisoners ( whom Heydrich staged as Polish) left behind to make Germany look good. They looked good till they found out what really happened.
The old Battleship Schleswig-Holstein just happened to be nearby to fire some of the first salvos as it happened to be just off the Polish coastline and about 80% of the German army just happened to be deployed at the Polish border just in case radio broadcasts would get taken over by anti-German polish broadcasters.
Hitler just happened to have detailed plans on destroying Poland.
Himmler just happened to have plans for systematically killing off entire segments of the population.
Yea so Poland started it, or UK who made the mistake of having a treaty with Poland for protection in case of invasion. Yea i got a bridge to sell you too…in Brooklyn. :roll:
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