No. Being an escort for the transport, the warship is part of the attack (as support). It must move in the Combat Move phase.
Hello krieghund, may i ask whether a carrier can carry a strategic bomber.rulebook states it can carry two types: fighter and tactical bomber,what about a strategic bomber.i’m asking this because there is a lonely strategic bomber in central us. it has uses for global but in the europe only game it seems useless. if a carrier cant carry a strategic bomber,that bomber in central us would possibly be impossible to use for attacking or strategic raids to germany.thanks!
HIstorically (and currently) speaking an Aircraft Carrier has not and probably will never, be able to carry a strategic bomber.
Hello krieghund, may i ask whether a carrier can carry a strategic bomber.rulebook states it can carry two types: fighter and tactical bomber,what about a strategic bomber.i’m asking this because there is a lonely strategic bomber in central us. it has uses for global but in the europe only game it seems useless. if a carrier cant carry a strategic bomber,that bomber in central us would possibly be impossible to use for attacking or strategic raids to germany.thanks!
? Move it to EUS and when America is at war, immediately send it to London. It can bomb to your heart’s content after that. You must be confused about something… You do know USA can land on British territories? I can’t figure out why you think that Strat bomber is useless, and why you’re trying to land it on a carrier. Wow. :-)
@Cmdr:
HIstorically (and currently) speaking an Aircraft Carrier has not and probably will never, be able to carry a strategic bomber.
Well, the only thing on the subject I know about is Dewey’s daring reprisal raid on Tokyo. They did have (small) strategic bombers take off from aircraft carriers in 1942. They stripped them down as much as possible, and you should see the video, it’s awesome. They take off (slowly), dip down below the deck after touching off, and nearly hit the water before they start to rise. America really, really, wanted the Japs to feel vulnerable by getting bombed in their own capital city when they felt invincible. Mission accomplished! The bombers had to land in China. The carriers spotted some Jap fishing vessels shortly before the planes took off, and they sunk them immediately in case they could somehow communicate with the military. It’s a great story and apparently you are oblivious to it. I advise you look it up, you’ll enjoy it.
Yea, but I couldnt remember the guy’s name, kept wanting to say Mitchel. Anyway, it wasn’t standard practice, and they lost all those planes, I believe.
Jimmy Doolittle planned and led the raid. The planes used were B-25 Mitchells (medium bombers). All of the planes were indeed lost, being unable to reach their their planned destinations in China. The raid did no significant military or strategic damage, and was a success only in terms of morale and propaganda, proving to the Japanese people that they were not invulnerable.
Hehe, Dewey was the guy Truman defeated. Knew it was a D though! Thanks Krieg!
Actually, I’m pretty sure they did “minimal” physical damage, not “none”. And I was thinking a few made it to China safely, but you guys are probably right about no survivors. I can’t remember for sure.
Yes, I knew it was a propaganda thing, and I knew all the planes were lost, and I am very happy I was correct that Mitchel was part of it, name of the plane, so it was integral!
Wonder if there is a way we could incorporate it into the game somehow…maybe leaving them on the carriers, unable to take off until launched and then they have to be lost after the SBR or something…
@Cmdr:
Wonder if there is a way we could incorporate it into the game somehow…maybe leaving them on the carriers, unable to take off until launched and then they have to be lost after the SBR or something…
That’s the spirit! ANYTHING can be house ruled! :-D
On Doolittle raid: it did get the Japanese to respond by bringing some of their air defense assets back to Japan from S Pacific.
Could someone point me to the page in the rule book that says you cannot put a minor IC on an island? This is for Global Alpha 2.
On Doolittle raid: it did get the Japanese to respond by bringing some of their air defense assets back to Japan from S Pacific.
Could someone point me to the page in the rule book that says you cannot put a minor IC on an island? This is for Global Alpha 2.
Sure, it’s on page 20 of the Pacific manual, under “restrictions on placement”
Alpha 2 has no rule changes regarding island complexes.
Thanks Gamerman, I see the entry on page 20. I thought in Global the Europe rules take precedence over Pacific, and that the Pacific rule book is mostly useful for Kamikaze rules and China rules. I checked the Europe book and see that it mentions IC’s on islands cannot be upgraded to Majors, but doesn’t mention they cannot be built on islands.
So are you saying that this is the one other rule that carried over from Pacific but didn’t make it into the Europe rule book?
EDIT: Perhaps Krieg could weigh in on this one?
Well, on Europe page 31, it says to follow the rules and setup information found in both Europe and Pacific unless otherwise indicated in this rules set.
Oh, I see what you’re talking about. Well that sentence says to consult the Pacific 1940 rulebook for Kamikaze attacks, China rules, and so on
“And so on” must include island complex rules. I don’t remember anything in the Europe rulebook that would alter the no island complex rule, and I’m sure there’s not anything or someone would have brought it up in the past year on this thread.
Suppose Japan takes Calcutta and the US takes Borneo from the Japanese.
Can the US claim Borneo or is that only if London is occupied?
If not, that means UK territories on the Pacific map are dead territories for the allies after India goes down. There are worth zip to the allies.
That doesn’t seem right.
Exactly which island were you going to put a complex on in Europe?
West Indies = 1 IPC, invalid
Malta = 0 IPC, invalid
Cyprus = 0 IPC, invalid
Sicily = 0 IPC, invalid
Iceland = 0 IPC, invalid
Ireland = 0 IPC, invalid
Madagascar = 1 IPC, invalid
Did I miss any?
I checked the Europe book and see that it mentions IC’s on islands cannot be upgraded to Majors, but doesn’t mention they cannot be built on islands.
It’s on pages 22 and 24.
@HerbNBrew:
Suppose Japan takes Calcutta and the US takes Borneo from the Japanese.
Can the US claim Borneo or is that only if London is occupied?
If not, that means UK territories on the Pacific map are dead territories for the allies after India goes down. There are worth zip to the allies.
That doesn’t seem right.
The US (or any other Allied power) can take temporary control of UK territories that fall under the Pacific economy by recapturing them from the Axis if India is Axis-held.
@Cmdr:
Exactly which island were you going to put a complex on in Europe?
West Indies = 1 IPC, invalid
Malta = 0 IPC, invalid
Cyprus = 0 IPC, invalid
Sicily = 0 IPC, invalid
Iceland = 0 IPC, invalid
Ireland = 0 IPC, invalid
Madagascar = 1 IPC, invalidDid I miss any?
:-) Good post.
Greenland?
Thanks, its on page 22 of Europe book. The wording was tricky otherwise, since the Europe book overrides the Pacific book when playing Global, I see many islands where IC’s can be built, they are just all on the Pacific map. :-o
Got a few quick questions, sorry didn’t read all the 100 posts :(
1- Can you send ‘infinite’ number of plane to attack a territory, a sea zone if there is no landing room EXCEPT for 1 carrier. Basically, this allows US or Japan to launch very powerful attack (while losing most of their air force). For example, can you attack a seazone with 10 fighters, but only 2 can actually land on the Aircraft carrier?
2- Technology and UK : Will a technology breakthrough be shared with Europe and Pacific UK?
3- Germany and Italy OIL NO. Is the OIL NO (persia, east persia, iraq etc) shared with both Germany and Italy? In other words, if Italy controls, say Iraq, does it also give +2 to Germany?
4- (Not very important ^^) : Say Germany or Japan gets a REALLY BAD turn 1, will you continue to play, or just reset the board? Last time, on G1, I failed to sink Canadian navy with 2 sub, failed my attack on BB + Cruiser, failed attack on France (France survived!) and Normandy. -.-
