• @LHoffman:

    Alright, alright… good points. The polls or ratings you have shown don’t necessarily prove your point, but that’s okay, they were interesting. Where did they come from?

    If the PlayStation controller works for people, that’s fine. I can use it and play with it easily enough, and there is something to be said for uniformity in their products… I just don’t think it is particularly creative… or ergonomic on the hands for that matter.

    Yeah Nintendo’s mainstays are all animation based… it’s just a fact. I am not condoning or supporting what they are, just that they are popular titles. Like what you want. I hate Zelda, personally, and I thought Mario Kart for the GameCube was totally lame. THough I love it on the 64. I also don’t enjoy reality based car games… so, I don’t really care if it is animated.

    If we speak only of the animated ones (like Mario vs. Sonic) animated games, Nintendo does beat out its rivals. Nintendo has: Zelda, Mario and all its derivatives, Star Fox, Donkey Kong etc…
    Playstation has: Crash, Sonic, Spyro, Rachet&Clank? etc… I am not sure what else. In this category Nintendo has decidedly more of the market share. That isn’t so for most other categories, so I guess it evens out.

    Wii just happened to be new and pseudo-revolutionary before XBox and PlayStation, by doing the motion capture stuff first. It will lose its novelty as all the other brands pick it up too. But, I will link all Nintendo’s continued success (and survival) to the Wii platform and the fan base it has… It is reaching groups that XBox and PlayStation have not targeted at all, while appealling decently to the teen group also. Whatever they did worked well. Even if we don’t care for it as a gaming system, which I do not.

    Why would the Play Station need animated characters, they have a few that work, and now need to target teens, people who will spend their time on this! Little kids have so much other things to do, that they can’t always worry about their wii, also parents are buying the wii people their games!

    Exactly, but Nintendo before that were going down from the start

    NES was the best
    Super NES did the second best
    64 was the third
    Game Cube was the worse!

    This is not right, Nintendo aren’t even advertising their maskcots anymore (Mario, Zelda, etc) they are worried just about all this stuff that there targets would like! Nintendo’s maskcot is now the Wii fit! They are way too desprate

    Also here’s all time for the consoles (this isn’t updated, but it’s good enough)

    1. PS2-Sony
    2. Play Station-Sony
    3. Wii-Nintendo
    4. NES-Nintendo
    5. SNES-Nintendo
    6. Xbox 360-Microsoft
    7. Genesis-Sega
    8. PS3-Sony
    9. N64-Nintendo
    10.Atari 2600-Atari
    11.Xbox-Microsoft
    12.GameCube-Nintendo
    13.Saturn-Sega
    14.Master System-Sega
    15.Dreamcast-Sega

    Also by now the PS3 I think passed the Genesis.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Dylan:

    Also here’s all time for the consoles (this isn’t updated, but it’s good enough)

    1. PS2-Sony
    2. Play Station-Sony
    3. Wii-Nintendo
    4. NES-Nintendo
    5. SNES-Nintendo
    6. Xbox 360-Microsoft
    7. Genesis-Sega
    8. PS3-Sony
    9. N64-Nintendo
    10.Atari 2600-Atari
    11.Xbox-Microsoft
    12.GameCube-Nintendo
    13.Saturn-Sega
    14.Master System-Sega
    15.Dreamcast-Sega

    Also by now the PS3 I think passed the Genesis.

    Does it really matter how Nintendo is advertising or who they are selling to? The point is that they are doing well and playing the marketing game cunningly.

    And remember, for the most part I am agreeing with you about the Wii; I don’t like it. I am simply defending Nintendo because I believe in their products.

    And you still haven’t told me where these lists come from… I mean they look legit and I don’t think you are lying, I’d just like to know.


  • I’ve had a system from every major producer over the years.  They are all good in their own ways.

    I primarily use a 360 now because most of my friends do, and I like the online setup and assortment of games.  If I had the money, I’d get a PS3 for the Blu-Ray player, but I feel the 360 has a bit more going for it in its library.  The Wii was cool, but the novelty wore off quickly and the games don’t seem that appealing to me.

    That being said, the most fun I’ve had in a long time was in Pictochat on the DS with 3 other people.  It’s not even a game, but it was hilarious.


  • All I know is the Play Station is winning the vote so far!

    Also I got the info from many sites.


  • Not a gamer.

  • '10

    My short History of The Console Wars and The Rise and Fall of the Nintendo Empire

    Nintendo ruled the waves for many years, Along came Sega but they soon lost their way with poor graphics and an endless release of new systems (before you even bought two games for the last one!).  Nintendo had won the battle…  or so it seemed.  No one cared about SEGA CD / SEGA 32X / SEGA SATURN / SEGA DREAMCAST / SEGA… I just don’t care anymore and have stopped giving you $300 every 6 months… When I can STILL get NEW games for my old SUPER NINTENDO.

    A new comer had entered the fray; SONY surprised everyone with PS1 and their more gritty Adult games (MOH was one you remember).  The graphics were more polygon than Nintendo but the content was more mainstream… Blood, Gore, borderline language.  The titles just kept on coming and soon SONY replaced SEGA as the #2 console in the galaxy.

    Then came PS2.  The work horse of the Gaming world for more than 5 years!  This was the system that just kept on giving.  It was a DVD player also and it used CDs rather than cartridges (still being used by Nintendo 64).  Nintendo began to lose market share and more and more big name software companies gave SONY exclusive rights to great adult games like GTA and MOH.

    Nintendo entered a DARK TIME and tried to compete with the release of the GAME CUBE…  but the Empire had long fallen and the CUBE was found to be to “square” for the new age of gamer.  To make matters worse the software giant MICROSOFT had just ventured out with the XBOX taking more gamers from the once powerful Nintendo.  Nintendo Power magazine which was once a power and voice in the gaming universe with news on the Hottest games was now more of a “remember this great game?” sort of Newsletter.  If it was not for the sideshow market of hand held gaming and the success of NINTENDO DS…  the great giant and once leader of the industry might have perished.

    Then came the so called “Next Generation Systems”.  PS3, with built in Blu-ray.  The 7 processor XBOX 360 and its huge XBOX LIVE Network.  These fairly recent comers to the show had become the leaders.  Even SEGA was now just producing Arcade games and polished re-runs for Nintendo!  (Sonic on Nintendo!!!  no!!  iT IS TRUE).  When News of Nintendo’s new system Wii hit, everyone remembered GAME CUBE and scoffed…  even with fond memories of past games and Nintendo glory in thier Childhood…  Nintendo was almost given up for dead…

    BUT…  The Wii turned out to be something VERY different from the Mega systems of the Next Gen.  It was interactive, it was fun and it was innovative!  You would find yourself lifted from your old couch (The same one you sat in 20 years ago when you beat Legend of Zelda!) and playing a NEW type of Game.  It had something for everyone, the young, the Old… the Hard Core.  Live action games and rebuilt Classics were somehow different on the Wii and you could play WITH friends.  A sweat could be broken during a sword fight…  A golf swing perfected during an evening…  A few pounds lost after years of sitting and playing PS2.

    Soon the Mega systems took notice and tried to copy the innovations.  But Nintendo was once again recognized as an industry leader and innovator in Home Video Game entertainment.  Now the Wii sits beside an XBOX or a PS3 in most homes.  Not in direct competition with the Mega system of your choice…  but something you enjoy with your children, even your parents.  And something that makes you feel like that kid again playing Donkey Kong or Duck Hunt for the very first time.

    Jeremy

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    Jeremy,

    I think this is a very accurate narrative. Dylan will spam us, but I say great job! It is the truth, even if it puts Ninetendo in a good light… But this is how the story goes.


  • I’m not spamming just trying to make you change your mind.

    I also love that you call it the Nintendo Empire.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Dylan:

    I’m not spamming just trying to make you change your mind.

    I also love that you call it the Nintendo Empire.

    Spamming was more a figure of speech than saying you were being defamatory for defamation’s sake…

    Yeah… sort of like the “Evil Empire”  :evil: … Although I wouldn’t say it is an “Evil Empire” because it isn’t like Nintendo has a monopoly on the industry or anything.

    In my opinion, the Wii was a brilliant life raft thrown from a sinking ship. It won’t be a novelty in the next generation of systems, so Nintendo will have to get real creative again, or they will have to conform enough to give XBox and PlayStation some competition in the male-shooter category… which is what really fuels the industry of gaming.


  • @LHoffman:

    @Dylan:

    I’m not spamming just trying to make you change your mind.

    I also love that you call it the Nintendo Empire.

    Spamming was more a figure of speech than saying you were being defamatory for defamation’s sake…

    Yeah… sort of like the “Evil Empire”  :evil: … Although I wouldn’t say it is an “Evil Empire” because it isn’t like Nintendo has a monopoly on the industry or anything.

    In my opinion, the Wii was a brilliant life raft thrown from a sinking ship. It won’t be a novelty in the next generation of systems, so Nintendo will have to get real creative again, or they will have to conform enough to give XBox and PlayStation some competition in the male-shooter category… which is what really fuels the industry of gaming.

    To be honest I don’t think that the Xbox 360 is that bad, its that fucking Wii! I don’t even get the purpose! You have a controller you fling around. You think your exercising, but your exercising on a programed electronic that’s really not doing anything! I don’t get the point of it!

    2:21 in the video  :-D
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioqxZitukVc

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @Dylan:

    @LHoffman:

    @Dylan:

    I’m not spamming just trying to make you change your mind.

    I also love that you call it the Nintendo Empire.

    Spamming was more a figure of speech than saying you were being defamatory for defamation’s sake…

    Yeah… sort of like the “Evil Empire”  :evil: … Although I wouldn’t say it is an “Evil Empire” because it isn’t like Nintendo has a monopoly on the industry or anything.

    In my opinion, the Wii was a brilliant life raft thrown from a sinking ship. It won’t be a novelty in the next generation of systems, so Nintendo will have to get real creative again, or they will have to conform enough to give XBox and PlayStation some competition in the male-shooter category… which is what really fuels the industry of gaming.

    To be honest I don’t think that the Xbox 360 is that bad, its that fucking Wii! I don’t even get the purpose! You have a controller you fling around. You think your exercising, but your exercising on a programed electronic that’s really not doing anything! I don’t get the point of it!

    2:21 in the video  :-D
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioqxZitukVc

    Yes… if you want some real excercise do P90X … Tony Horton is God.



  • Do you idiots think it will actually work that well.


  • definitely Nintendo

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