This is hilarious. :-D
I am very glad to have started this thread. I’d like to keep it at least civil enough where debate is encouraged. I won’t ask Frimmel back, but he seems to be the only one arguing for the merits of the movie… so we need him, or someone who would like to take his place and defend the film.
I don’t quite follow all that IL has said, but it is making some satirical sense. If only due to comedic hyperbole. It is entertaining if nothing else. I am not sure how the “Vulcans” part fits in. It isn’t like the Vulcans are galactic recluses which need to be persuaded to open their culture to the outside. They were the ones who contacted the humans after all… and jointly formed the Federation… But this is all Trek babble… I am undoubtably losing people here.
Are most of us here middle aged, as Calvin asks? I for one am only 20 years old. I would say I am conservative, yes. But that does not affect my “objective” assesment of the movie.
I don’t know IL’s age… want to enlighten us? Although, I do think his profile lists him as 200 some years old… so he is a bit past middle age. But maybe that is normal for his species. :-D
So; if you care to list your age… please do. If not, it shouldn’t matter anyway.