No Soviet far East Fleet???

[Seven_Patch]

@calvinhobbesliker:

If you put 1 inf in FIC, then the Japanese will have to use more than just the 2 Siam inf to have a good chance of taking it. This divers either troops from yunnan or planes from other areas

In Global I think Japan is unlikely to try a J1 attack since that would bring America into the war against Germany.  If that is the case then Japan has more than enough airpower to attack FIC.

[calvinhobbesliker]

@Seven_Patch:

@calvinhobbesliker:

If you put 1 inf in FIC, then the Japanese will have to use more than just the 2 Siam inf to have a good chance of taking it. This divers either troops from yunnan or planes from other areas

In Global I think Japan is unlikely to try a J1 attack since that would bring America into the war against Germany.  If that is the case then Japan has more than enough airpower to attack FIC.

Even without a J1, Japan can still attack France since a DoW on France doesn’t affect anyone else.

[JamesG]

@calvinhobbesliker:

@Seven_Patch:

@calvinhobbesliker:

If you put 1 inf in FIC, then the Japanese will have to use more than just the 2 Siam inf to have a good chance of taking it. This divers either troops from yunnan or planes from other areas

In Global I think Japan is unlikely to try a J1 attack since that would bring America into the war against Germany.  If that is the case then Japan has more than enough airpower to attack FIC.

Even without a J1, Japan can still attack France since a DoW on France doesn’t affect anyone else.

I think that is his point.  Since Japan won’t be attacking US or UK in J1, they will have more than enough air to deal with 1 Inf in FIC.

Note that I’m not necessarily endorsing the proposed change, I’m just clarifying the arguement.  (I hope).

[SgtBlitz]

I think Japan already blew up most of the Soviet fleet back in 1905.  Maybe the lack of naval units reflects Russia’s desire to NOT repeat the naval debacle.

[Seven_Patch]

I’m not really saying the additional units are needed.  I’m just saying it might make it more fun and interesting.

I’ll likely play a game or two with the designed set up and make a judgment then.  As miamibeach has said, the game appears to have been play tested well.

This is just a desire of mine to see French and a simple and small Russian fleet in the Pacific.  Add more color to the Pacific theater.

[miamibeach]

In 1940 USSR did have some naval assets at Vlad, I think some subs and some lighter surface combat ships(CA’s or light CA’s).

If you think the Allies should get about 23 IPC’s worth of extra units, why not give the same amount to the Axis?  I’m not endorsing any of this, but just wondering why.

[Seven_Patch]

@miamibeach:

In 1940 USSR did have some naval assets at Vlad, I think some subs and some lighter surface combat ships(CA’s or light CA’s).

If you think the Allies should get about 23 IPC’s worth of extra units, why not give the same amount to the Axis?  I’m not endorsing any of this, but just wondering why.

I’m not against giving the axis an even amount of IPC’s in units.  I don’t know if Japan needs it though, they have so much airpower they can easily wipe out a lot of Ally IPC unit value.

Makes sense though, if I give Russia a destroyer and sub then I can give a destoyer and sub to Japan.  2 more allied infantry in Alexandria/Egypt, Italy gets one more infantry and Germany gets one more infantry (one guy in Rome and the other in Romania respectivly).

For the extra French Infantry in FIC, Japan can have an extra guy on Japan.

I don’t see whats wrong with this and how it will upset gameplay, but on the flip side it’s likely not needed.

[Flashman]

This is an acute problem for Russia in that the normal route to the far east for their fleet (around the north of Siberia) does not exist on the map.

They allowed German commerce raiders to use this route to attack Allied shipping in the Pacific, but ships launched in northern Russia have this highway denied them, leaving a factory in Amuria the only option.

Another hang-over from neutral Russia in Pacific is the lack of convoy boxes in szs 3, 4 & 5.  This Pacific route accounted for about 50% of Allied aid to Russia.
Presumably the convoy in sz 80 is meant to represent the Caucasus route.

[calvinhobbesliker]

@Flashman:

This is an acute problem for Russia in that the normal route to the far east for their fleet (around the north of Siberia) does not exist on the map.

They allowed German commerce raiders to use this route to attack Allied shipping in the Pacific, but ships launched in northern Russia have this highway denied them, leaving a factory in Amuria the only option.

Only 1 German ship went through that route.

If it’s normal, why did the Baltic fleet go round Africa in 1905?

[Flashman]

Perhaps they didn’t have electric blankets…

Or maybe they just didn’t rate the Japanese fleet as a threat.  But anyway, it’d be nice to have the option.