Well everyone thinks that this will cripple the UK’s income.
I think it should be though!
If income was increased by one for Canada in, let’s say, Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia
yes that would be realistic.
Canada has been given great respect in the 1940 games; being given it’s own Roundel showing its special position in the British Empire at the time (Like ANZAC).
I have to Agree with others that making Canada a SEPARATE power would weaken the UK in the European theater… it would also be completely un-historical! Although the Dominion of Canada (as it was known at the time) made a HUGE effort and contribution to the Allied effort, they were completely under the command of the JOINT IMPERIAL GENERAL STAFF located in London. It was not until 1944/45 as the Allies moved into the low countries and Western Germany that the Canadian Army was all together under their won command (Under the SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER)
Before 1944 and the great Canadian contribution was spread all over the World (Hong Kong / Australia / North Africa / Italy / North Atlantic) and was under the command and in conjunction with Great Britain.
I propose instead… use alternate colour(possibly from another AAA game) British pcs for All Canadian units and enjoy tracking their progress and use throughout the war… but keeping them under the command of the British Empire… IMHO
I am in no way trying to convince other people to do this, in fact, this House Rule is entirely for my selfish use, but anyone else who wants to use it, can. I’m still developing, and it won’t be ready until I can playtest it. Very end of August is probably the soonest.
LETS GET 'EM CANADA!
Would need a few Canadian Markers and pieces… Also, I think the game already has plenty of minor Allied powers (China, ANZAC, France), no offense to Canadians (I have visited before, lovely place), but I think unless major modifications were made to balance it out, it might do more harm then good.
himm well at least fix the facct the canadas poorer the anzac when in ww2 they had the same economy.
I am in no way trying to convince other people to do this, in fact, this House Rule is entirely for my selfish use, but anyone else who wants to use it, can. I’m still developing, and it won’t be ready until I can playtest it. Very end of August is probably the soonest.
I would love to see Canada as a separate power for purely selfish reasons too. I believe the key to having a playable Canada is giving it an easy National Objective. Canada is currently worth 7 IPCs. A 5 IPC NO would raise its IPCs to 12. This is enough money for Canada to purchase any unit it wants except an aircraft carrier or battleship.
I plan on experimenting with the game once it arrives. Hopefully i can get a simple way for Canada to be added.
Currently my thoughts on implementing Canada as an independent power would include the following changes.
Note: I am hoping that removing UK’s split income restriction will make up for a weaker UK capital without being over powered. (Larry has expressed concern that UK would be too powerful if UK could spend all of its income at its capital. This concern was not repeated for India.) Based on starting income UK would only be able to spend an additional 4 IPCs at it’s capital. Conversely UK could spend an additional 22 IPCs at India plus whatever NOs UK has in the global game which concerns me. Either way it will take a few plays to figure out balance.
I am open to any thoughts you may have.
P.S. FMG I would definitely buy those Canadian dice.
how about Canadian special forces with hockey sticks and they wack grenades with the hockey sticks over long distances? :-D
I’m liking those NOs Bob. There is a bit of a problem with taking away 5 IPCs as well as all of Canada’s IPCs, because even with a non-split economy, either India or the British Isles will be subject to fall very easily. In fact, the best option might be to keep the economy split, keep all NOs and add one more, but have the option to spend NOs in either half. Changing the UK to more immediate NOs might help too. So these, for example, would work to help prevent a Sea Lion or J1 Crush, but also preventing easy IPCs later in the game.
-Gain 5 IPCs every turn that Canada and ANZAC control all original territories.
Will almost always have it at the beginning.
-Gain 5 IPCs every turn that the UK controls the Suez Canal and the Straight of Gibraltar.
Again, will almost always have it for the first few turns.
-Gain 5 IPCs every turn that at least one European French territory is controlled by the Allies.
Even shorter period of time here, but still useful for preventing a Sea Lion.
For Euro '40 I’d suggest immediate NOs too. Perhaps just the latter two previously suggested.
I do realize this slightly unfairly tips the scales to the Allies, but I still think it would be the best for keeping the UK at the level it’s at now. Any suggestions for balance?
I think that Canada would have to take it’s turn in conjunction with the UK, rather than on a separate turn (Even though being an independent power). This might make it work.
Canadian and UK forces should be able to attack and move together.
LETS GET 'EM CANADA!
OK so much for avoiding impulse shopping this month!!
And when do these little babies come up for sale?
Just like how the UK is a split economy, make ANZAC a split economy
It is now the British Commonweath Forces, it uses grey ANZAC pieces
Keep all income seperate for Canadian roundel territories and ANZAC roundel territories.
ANZAC 10 IPCs
Canada 7 IPCs
Due to the special nature of Canada, it may not take control of territories itself, it does so on behalf of the United Kindom, this money goes to London.
Modify the starting set up, just a tad, to give Canada a boost. +1 Fighter, +1 Artilery
Add two NOs for Canada.
+5 IPCs If the United States is at war with the Axis Powers and all Canadian territories are allied controled
+5 IPCs If Canada has units in Normandy/Borduex
Just like how the UK is a split economy, make ANZAC a split economy
It is now the British Commonweath Forces, it uses grey ANZAC pieces
Keep all income seperate for Canadian roundel territories and ANZAC roundel territories.
ANZAC 10 IPCs
Canada 7 IPCsDue to the special nature of Canada, it may not take control of territories itself, it does so on behalf of the United Kindom, this money goes to London.
Modify the starting set up, just a tad, to give Canada a boost. +1 Fighter, +1 Artilery
Add two NOs for Canada.
+5 IPCs If the United States is at war with the Axis Powers and all Canadian territories are allied controled
+5 IPCs If Canada has units in Normandy/Borduex
Give 5 ipc’s to the UK as a NO to balance the loss of 7 ipc’s
I was thinking of a new NO for UK….but since i dont know their actual ones i was unsure
so here goes
+5 IPCs for Control of Gibraltar and Egypt…unless thats already one
I was thinking of a new NO for UK….but since i dont know their actual ones i was unsure
so here goes
+5 IPCs for Control of Gibraltar and Egypt…unless thats already one
Gibraltar will fall I1 if Germany does a sealion, then. This NO can’t change for most of the game because it has to replace 6 or 7 canadian ipc’s. 5 ipc’s if allies controls all of the following: Quebec, South Africa, India, New South Wales. All factories of the British Empire needed.
I like the “all british factories” NO
I like the “all british factories” NO
Thanks. India is the one most likely to fall, but this probably won’t happen because a J1 in Global isn’t a good idea
It seems that the Brit NO is not all Canada and ANZAC, but all British and ANZAC territories. It will only collect this for 1 turn before Alexandria falls
