Have you been able to try these house rules, Guillermo?
IL's Axis and Allies Global 1939 and 1942 files
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IL, the biggest problem that we found so far with your game is the fortress in France. The only way to attack France is through the low countries. This splits the German force into two parts. Because of all French ground units defending at three at the eastern border it becomes impossible for Germany to attack from both directions at the same time. The German losses would be unacceptable. The fortress rules are too much. Of course this is true on any border where a fort is placed. So it appears the fort rules need to be reworked. I will post more on this at a later date.
ONLY the infantry and artillery are at 3. What are you doing on the attack? It should be a 2 round battle and easy.
Turn 1 attack:
Germany has:
10 Inf, 2 Art, 2 Mech Inf., 5 Tanks, 3 Fighters, 2 Tactical Bomber, 2 Bombers= 26 units and 54 points ( each combat loss is losing a 1)
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France has:
6 Inf, 2 Art, 3 Tanks, 2 Fighters= 13 units and 47 points ( with bonus, except each combat loss is losing a 3)Low Luck:
Slight German edge on round 1, and huge German edge on round 2.France will lose 9 units, which is 27 points leaving 20
Germany will lose 7-8 units leaving 4646 to 20 is an easy win.
Turn 2 attack:
Germany has about 30 IPC and 10 land units and France just has 17 IPC and can’t build more than say 5 more units.
Germany is gaining. Remember France does not have a AA gun. I hope your not adding one right?
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@Imperious:
IL, the biggest problem that we found so far with your game is the fortress in France. The only way to attack France is through the low countries. This splits the German force into two parts. Because of all French ground units defending at three at the eastern border it becomes impossible for Germany to attack from both directions at the same time. The German losses would be unacceptable. The fortress rules are too much. Of course this is true on any border where a fort is placed. So it appears the fort rules need to be reworked. I will post more on this at a later date.
ONLY the infantry and artillery are at 3. What are you doing on the attack? It should be a 2 round battle and easy.
Turn 1 attack:
Germany has:
10 Inf, 2 Art, 2 Mech Inf., 5 Tanks, 3 Fighters, 2 Tactical Bomber, 2 Bombers= 26 units and 54 points ( each combat loss is losing a 1)
vs.
France has:
6 Inf, 2 Art, 3 Tanks, 2 Fighters= 13 units and 47 points ( with bonus, except each combat loss is losing a 3)Low Luck:
Slight German edge on round 1, and huge German edge on round 2.France will lose 9 units, which is 27 points leaving 20
Germany will lose 7-8 units leaving 4646 to 20 is an easy win.
Turn 2 attack:
Germany has about 30 IPC and 10 land units and France just has 17 IPC and can’t build more than say 5 more units.
Germany is gaining. Remember France does not have a AA gun. I hope your not adding one right?
Germany takes Holland, Poland and others round one. Now they are faced with the decision of how many units to garrison Holland with and how many to leave in Germany. France is strong enough to retake Holland on F1 unless enough German infantry is left there to discourage them. France can place two infantry and one tank on their purchase turn. (12 IPCs) So on G2 France has 8 inf, 2 art, 4 tanks all defending at three plus 2 fighters defending at four. If France took Holland on F1 then there will be less. But now Germany is back to square one. They cannot swing their mobile units around through Holland. Looks like the only option for Germany is to attack France right through the fort on G1 with everything they have and then move to Poland and the others on G2. All land units behind a fort defending at three is too strong.
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Germany takes Holland, Poland and others round one. Now they are faced with the decision of how many units to garrison Holland with and how many to leave in Germany. France is strong enough to retake Holland on F1 unless enough German infantry is left there to discourage them. France can place two infantry and one tank on their purchase turn. (12 IPCs) So on G2 France has 8 inf, 2 art, 4 tanks all defending at three plus 2 fighters defending at four. If France took Holland on F1 then there will be less. But now Germany is back to square one. They cannot swing their mobile units around through Holland. Looks like the only option for Germany is to attack France right through the fort on G1 with everything they have and then move to Poland and the others on G2. All land units behind a fort defending at three is too strong.
Use all the one move units in Prussia and Slovakia for Poland, plus air and a few tanks
Use all infantry in Germany against Holland and everything else
Use 2 infantry with bomber in Norway ( paratroopers) and perhaps land some men to use the SB’s
You should have your builds plus everything in Holland and all the two move units in range and all air to attack France from two directions.
You got more than enough. I think you sent too many infantry against Poland and you probably used the ones in Germany, which is not good.
The benefits of a attack on france on G2:
Italy is still neutral on I1, you should attack Yugoslavia. You can do this without any issues
Also, you might have enough for Greece.
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IL, we have started a new game using your 1939 map. I have a question about the German war economy. When the four axis minor allies join Germany on turn three the Germs economy goes up 10 IPCs for the value of those territories. Your rules state that on turn four the Germs economy goes up another 10 IPCs. Did you intend for this 20 IPC increase over two turns or have I misunderstood something?
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IL, we have started a new game using your 1939 map. I have a question about the German war economy. When the four axis minor allies join Germany on turn three the Germs economy goes up 10 IPCs for the value of those territories. Your rules state that on turn four the Germs economy goes up another 10 IPCs. Did you intend for this 20 IPC increase over two turns or have I misunderstood something?
Yes it goes up by 10, Yes again it increases by another 10 “total war” and full wartime mobilization has occurred, much like USA how it goes up. So Germany goes up by a total of 20 by turn 4.
Also, it can place 10 IPC worth of product in these four minor axis allies even if they have no factory. All in one or spread around. Or it can build a factory and do even more.
So what did you do on that french attack? Did you figure it out that is was really a two round war?
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@Imperious:
IL, we have started a new game using your 1939 map. I have a question about the German war economy. When the four axis minor allies join Germany on turn three the Germs economy goes up 10 IPCs for the value of those territories. Your rules state that on turn four the Germs economy goes up another 10 IPCs. Did you intend for this 20 IPC increase over two turns or have I misunderstood something?
Yes it goes up by 10, Yes again it increases by another 10 “total war” and full wartime mobilization has occurred, much like USA how it goes up. So Germany goes up by a total of 20 by turn 4.
Also, it can place 10 IPC worth of product in these four minor axis allies even if they have no factory. All in one or spread around. Or it can build a factory and do even more.
So what did you do on that french attack? Did you figure it out that is was really a two round war?
I know that you probably do not want to hear this but we changed the fort rules. We decided that all ground units defending at three behind a fort was just too strong. Sorry!
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I have to agree, we changed the fort rule to first round only.
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Ok so in both cases the thing is for one round?
If that is the case the cost must be changed:
pay 2 IPC fixed cost and 1 IPC for each adjacent territory or sea zone.
so if you want a fort in an area adjacent to 6 areas, the cost is 8 IPC
Small islands inside a sea zone are 3.
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@Imperious:
Ok so in both cases the thing is for one round?
If that is the case the cost must be changed:
pay 2 IPC fixed cost and 1 IPC for each adjacent territory or sea zone.
so if you want a fort in an area adjacent to 6 areas, the cost is 8 IPC
Small islands inside a sea zone are 3.
Yes, I like that.
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@coachofmany:
I have to agree, we changed the fort rule to first round only.
@coachofmany:
@Imperious:
Ok so in both cases the thing is for one round?
If that is the case the cost must be changed:
pay 2 IPC fixed cost and 1 IPC for each adjacent territory or sea zone.
so if you want a fort in an area adjacent to 6 areas, the cost is 8 IPC
Small islands inside a sea zone are 3.
Yes, I like that.
Good to see that someone agrees with me that ILs forts need to be changed. One round looks like a possible solution. But our first effort at change is a complete rework. What we are using now is basicly a fortified long range artillary piece. Cost is six IPCs with a limit of two per land territory. Each fort defends one border. It will preempt an attack by firing two shots. Two dice at four or less. Attacker chooses casualties and they have no return fire. If additional rounds of combat are required then the fort fires at the start of each round. Yes it is possible that both defender and attacker can have a fort on the same border. They both work the same. If the defender loses all other supporting units then the fort must surrender and is captured UNLESS the defender has a combat engineer. The combat engineer may roll one die and fort is destroyed on a two or less. There are other ways the fort may be destroyed but I will not go into that now. If a fort is placed on a sea coast border then it will also preempt an amphipious landing by firing three shots at the landing force. Three dice hitting on a four or less. Attacker choosing his own casualties. We thought about the defender targeting certain units but we have not tried that yet. Fort fires at the start of each combat round and destroyed units do not return fire. OK, I am ready to here some feedback.
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bumper.
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dont you need a airbase before G1 can attack with planes. so if you buy airbase on your turn can you use it right away?
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Read the rules first. The game has no airbases.
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IL minor axis allies cannot move until germans 3 turn correct and moved by germany player only? and if japan attacks Uk, Dutch islands, or Anzc they are not at war with USA.
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IL minor axis allies cannot move until germans 3 turn correct and moved by germany player only?
Yes except Finland which can defend or go on the attack if first attacked by USSR. ON T3 Germany controls and gets the money.
and if japan attacks Uk, Dutch islands, or Anzc they are not at war with USA.
NO if Japan attacks anybody except China, they are at war with USA, UK, ANZAC, and Dutch.
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ok thats why theres oil for japan first 4 turns. thanks
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Yes they don’t need to make an oil shortage roll because they have 4 turns of reserves. If you don’t attack by turn 4, they must roll the die. If they attack early, the oil reserves are lost on their next turn, so if they attack Dutch or UK or USA early they need to take one oil center or face an oil shortage roll.
Germany and Italy trace oil from Romania even if its neutral till turn 3.
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IL Germany attacks Paris.Controlls Paris. French troops in Normandy removed. Becomes UK territory. Can UK transport ground troops to normandy on UK turn 1 do to Paris now being conquered territory? Also on G2 move, Germant takes over Normandy. Does it still keep minor factory. I was going to put the 1 infrantry and 1 mech on that territory to force Germany to attack instead of just walking in if can’t transport UK troops. Also can UK attack Japan in FIC or they can’t attack until Japan starts war against them?
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looking back at map FIC becomes UK after Paris falls?
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IL Germany attacks Paris.Controlls Paris. French troops in Normandy removed. Becomes UK territory. Can UK transport ground troops to normandy on UK turn 1 do to Paris now being conquered territory? Also on G2 move, Germant takes over Normandy. Does it still keep minor factory. I was going to put the 1 infrantry and 1 mech on that territory to force Germany to attack instead of just walking in if can’t transport UK troops. Also can UK attack Japan in FIC or they can’t attack until Japan starts war against them?
Yes UK can do anything they want. Only france suffers. Also, if UK can recapture Paris on the same turn it falls the France units remain to fight, so no Vichy determination is made. Paris must fall and be under control for the rest of the turn for Vichy status to be acted upon
ON the Normandy Factory…. if Paris falls and Normandy is not occupied till a turn after then Germany gets to keep the factory. If UK decides to hold it and fight, then if Germany takes it it is destroyed. If Paris falls and only french occupy Normandy and LATER the Germans occupy Normandy, they can use the factory.
UK or USA cannot attack FIC or Japan in any way. Only Japan makes this decision unless the 4th turn occurs when they are automatically at war.
So in France leave Normandy alone and hope the British don’t fight for it after Paris falls. One way to stop that is to blockade with your fleet and take Paris on turn G1, so UK has no opportunity to move any troops to Normandy.
looking back at map FIC becomes UK after Paris falls?
no. after paris falls, Japan can take it with no repercussions or war with anybody.
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