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Panzer III and Tiger 1 sounds like the best combo to me. I would love that.
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for me i’ll be cool with the stug and either the tiger or king tiger
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for me i’ll be cool with the stug and either the tiger or king tiger
But not together with Panzer III, since they’re both on the same chassis. Kind of boring. But I’d be ok with Stug III and Tiger 1. Please no King Tiger. Not as iconic nor as cool as the Tiger.
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for me i’ll be cool with the stug and either the tiger or king tiger
But not together with Panzer III, since they’re both on the same chassis. Kind of boring. But I’d be ok with Stug III and Tiger 1. Please no King Tiger. Not as iconic nor as cool as the Tiger.
I think the King Tiger was a very cool tank, but you are right that it isn’t as iconic as the Tiger I. The King Tiger came out too late in the war. I think the first time they were used in force was during the Battle of the Bulge in December of 1944. Also, it was a heavy tank which really outclassed most Allied tanks. If they woulc have come earlier in the war, it might have really changed the outcome of some of the big tank battles.
I still think it would be cool if FMG came out with a Heavy Tank set for all nations after all the country sets are complete.
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for me i’ll be cool with the stug and either the tiger or king tiger
But not together with Panzer III, since they’re both on the same chassis. Kind of boring. But I’d be ok with Stug III and Tiger 1. Please no King Tiger. Not as iconic nor as cool as the Tiger.
I think the King Tiger was a very cool tank, but you are right that it isn’t as iconic as the Tiger I. The King Tiger came out too late in the war. I think the first time they were used in force was during the Battle of the Bulge in December of 1944. Also, it was a heavy tank which really outclassed most Allied tanks. If they woulc have come earlier in the war, it might have really changed the outcome of some of the big tank battles.
I still think it would be cool if FMG came out with a Heavy Tank set for all nations after all the country sets are complete.
The british had the bad luck of encountering Tiger IIs in July 44. There were 450 or so made over the course of the last year of the war. Spread out on three fronts, it was a rare sight. There were about 1,300 tiger I’s made and they were around for almost half the war. Production was halted in Oct 44 when all but one factory that made them had switched to Tiger II production. The last factory that was supposed to keep making them was hit by US bombers. The much slower Tiger II was a bad idea when allied planes ruled the battlefield. To slow to get away, too big to hide. They’d have been wiser to focus production on the Panther.
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Just for fun some alternatives- truck-one of the Maultiers,Fighter-He100(might have entered service,but they wanted Heinkel to concentrate on bombers),Odin-proposed CV/BB
hybrid(Z plan),coastal u boat,sdkfz 7,etc. -
I still think it would be cool if FMG came out with a Heavy Tank set for all nations after all the country sets are complete.
Exactly. There is no reason why FMG should stop making models. They’re doing a phenomenal job at it.
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Hear hear! With Self-propelled artillery as well!
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I would have preferred a Panzer IV over a Panzer III, for the reasons stated previously by myself; however, the Panzer III is a respectable and logical choice too, and appears to have garnered approval in this community at least. I think it will be fine.
For the second tank, I would still prefer a Tiger I. Iconic, produced and used in significant numbers, visually different from the Panzer III, different choice from the WoTC OOB Panther, and a popular choice within this community - seems like an appropriate choice to me.
@ FMG - Any confirmation as to which Panzer III variant will be represented by your sculpt? An early Ausf. A-D variant, or one of the later variants? Personally, I would choose a E/F variant, but I do admit that most Panzer III variants would look very similar at this scale.
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For me the Panzer IV is the best representation of german medium tanks
Number panzer III all version 5728
Number panzer IV all version 8870compared with the Panther (Wotc) 3054 all version…
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@ FMG - Any confirmation as to which Panzer III variant will be represented by your sculpt? An early Ausf. A-D variant, or one of the later variants? Personally, I would choose a E/F variant, but I do admit that most Panzer III variants would look very similar at this scale.
I hope they use the version with the long barrel. I can’t remember which variants they were, but some of the early variants had little short-barreled guns. Same thing with early versions of the Panzer IV. To me, those just don’t look right.
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Panzer III, ausf. L:
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Panzer III, ausf. L:
Ah, yes. That one looks perfect. I hope we get those.
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For me the Panzer IV is the best representation of german medium tanks
Number panzer III all version 5728
Number panzer IV all version 8870compared with the Panther (Wotc) 3054 all version…
I think it was closer to 6,000, but nevertheless, you’re point is well taken. I agree that the Panver IV would be the most logical choice, but I’m quite willing to accept the Panzer III.
Ironically it was originally the Panzer III that was intended for tank-on-tank battles, whereas the Panzer IV, with a low-velocity 75mm gun was designed for infantry support. While that low-velocity guns wasn’t a great tank-killer, being built around a larger caliber made the Panzer IV more “upgradeable,” which is why it lasted until the end of the war.
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Panzer III is the best.
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Love the Panzer III as well
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I also love to see the Panzer III. I still say it is the best choice and comparable to the Carro Armato M13/40 we are getting in the Italian set. I would still like to see in the future sets other light/medium tanks that would be more comparable to the Panzer III and Carro Armato for the first armor choice. Some examples:
USA = M5 Stuart
Britain = Crusader II
Russia = T-26
France = Renault R-35 or Somua S-35 (A heavy tank for France would have to be the Char B1-bis)
Japan = This is the only exception as WOTC already used the Type 95 Ha-Go light tank. Therefore I would like to see FMG come out with the Type 97 Chi-Ha medium tank and perhaps the Type 1 Ho-Ni SPG/tank destroyer. -
What about Tiger I and … StuG III ??? I know StuG III isn’t properly a medium tank, it is a tank destroyer and it seems more like the italian Semovente 75/18, already used for the italian sculpts…
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@Sergente:
What about Tiger I and … StuG III ??? I know StuG III isn’t properly a medium tank, it is a tank destroyer and it seems more like the italian Semovente 75/18, already used for the italian sculpts…
I wouldn’t mind seeing the StuG III but FMG has already stated that they are making the Panzer III and since the StuG III used the Panzer III chassis, I think they would be too close together.
Also, I think the reason they used the Carro Armato (tank) and Semovente (SPG) was because the Italians of WW2 didn’t have a wide range of armor choices, unlike the Germans who seemed to have tons of different tanks, tank destroyers, assault guns and self-propelled artillery to choose from. -
@Sergente:
What about Tiger I and … StuG III ??? I know StuG III isn’t properly a medium tank, it is a tank destroyer and it seems more like the italian Semovente 75/18, already used for the italian sculpts…
Actually it was an Assault Gun that came to fill the role of a Tank Destroyer, but still.
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