Axis and Allies victory fairness

[trackmagic]

@fanofbond:

@trackmagic:

I think people give up too easy. As soon as it gets hard then they think all hope is lost. Great games go back and forth. I played a friend once and I was the axis and as soon as russia fell he began to give up, but I had 0 navy and Japan was pretty much confined to the home island. If he knocked out Japan it would have been a struggle for asia since the US could have focused 100% on those territories and it was going to take a while for Germany to get strength over there (not to mention its a lot of territories to cover from half a world away)

If you are sick of the game that is one thing, but giving up because your side starts to loose is another. I never get sick of the game so I like to play till the end, but I never have because I’m afraid my opponent will never play me again if I did that.

In your game Germany was economical power house and if the us left the uk helpless the Germans would have enough time to take out the uk before the us takes out the Japanese.  Japan at that point had probably a good stack of units on japan while uk didn’t really have all that many. Germany can hammer the uk while the us needs to build a large landing force to take out japan. This game you describe here the Germans were basically locked.

In that game I was Germany. Maybe I could have taken the UK, but I was heading east to help Japan. There was about 6 russian infantry (russia’s eastern defence) chasing down the last of the Japanese army. I was going to try to kill the russians and give Japan a chance to recapture some territory.

The UK had about 4 BBs in the atlantic and a bunch of cruisers and destroyers. The Germans had NOTHING navy-wise. I could have done it differently, but that is how the game was going to go with me playing and it seemed like it was shaping up to be an interesting ending to me.

[Axisgirl]

I think that if Germany takes Russia then the game is over. There is no Bear to the East.
With Russia out of the Picture you can take America. You dont need to TAKE america in the first 5 turns. You only need to keep them out of the war.

Buy the Improved Shipyards tech and buy Submarines. With that you can keep America away from your coast. Or make them buy something that is a waste of IPC in the long run.

[LHoffman]

@Axisgirl:

Buy the Improved Shipyards tech and buy Submarines. With that you can keep America away from your coast. Or make them buy something that is a waste of IPC in the long run.

Easier said than done… unless you have Jedi powers to fix the die rolls.

But yeah, with Russia gone, there is little hope of Allied victory.

[Axisgirl]

Submarines are the best Unit you can put in the Sea. They cant be targeted by fighters or other planes! They can ONLY be targeted by destroyers and for their cost you can put a lot of them into combat relatively quickly. If you slink a few into some Allied convoy zones? They waste valuable resources trying to hunt you down. If you have Super Submarines AND Advanced Shipyards you have a 3-3-2-5 Unit that cant be targeted by almost ANY enemies. for Just 5 IPC a unit you break the American Player.

[calvinhobbesliker]

Don’t subs defend at 2 with SS since they usually defend at 1?

[Axisgirl]

But recall they can only be targetted by one type of unit. They are Cheap. And now with the “Port” game mechanic its easy to replace them. Try it in Pacific. It breaks the game sooo bad. Youll keep the Americans and Brits out of your hair so you can worry about the bigger issue……Russia

[calvinhobbesliker]

@Axisgirl:

But recall they can only be targetted by one type of unit. They are Cheap. And now with the “Port” game mechanic its easy to replace them. Try it in Pacific. It breaks the game sooo bad. You’ll keep the Americans and Brits out of your hair so you can worry about the bigger issue……Russia

Yes, but those destroyers will be bought anyway for blockers you’ll lose 12 or more ipc’s to my 8(if one sub hits)
If there’s only 1 sub, a destroyer and planes will kill is while it will likely miss.

If you pile 2 or more subs together, a DD and a few planes will kill them and t

[Dylan the Canadian]

@LHoffman:

@Axisgirl:

Buy the Improved Shipyards tech and buy Submarines. With that you can keep America away from your coast. Or make them buy something that is a waste of IPC in the long run.

Easier said than done… unless you have Jedi powers to fix the die rolls.

But yeah, with Russia gone, there is little hope of Allied victory.

Unless the Allies can do or die assault on Germany or Italy.

[Dylan the Canadian]

@Axisgirl:

But recall they can only be targetted by one type of unit. They are Cheap. And now with the “Port” game mechanic its easy to replace them. Try it in Pacific. It breaks the game sooo bad. Youll keep the Americans and Brits out of your hair so you can worry about the bigger issue……Russia

Where the hell did your posts go?

[maverick_76]

I think your IPC values are wrong, Don’t subs cost only 6 now? And destroyers 10? Granted that subs can’t be hit by planes unless a destroyer is present but as the US if you use a balanced attack you can break the sub’s grip on the ocean. I buy battleships just so I can get the free hit, and of course destroyers and cruisers. With a strong balanced fleet, the US shouldn’t really have problems with the subs, especially since the Japs are spending lots of money on those it will hamper their land force purchases.

[Dylan the Canadian]

@maverick_76:

I think your IPC values are wrong, Don’t subs cost only 6 now? And destroyers 10? Granted that subs can’t be hit by planes unless a destroyer is present but as the US if you use a balanced attack you can break the sub’s grip on the ocean. I buy battleships just so I can get the free hit, and of course destroyers and cruisers. With a strong balanced fleet, the US shouldn’t really have problems with the subs, especially since the Japs are spending lots of money on those it will hamper their land force purchases.

Destroyer’s are 8.

[maverick_76]

Yeah so I don’t see how subs are that much better considering that they only defend on 1 now. I don’t really see the benefit of stacking subs as opposed to stacking destroyers.

[Dylan the Canadian]

@maverick_76:

Yeah so I don’t see how subs are that much better considering that they only defend on 1 now. I don’t really see the benefit of stacking subs as opposed to stacking destroyers.

What’s so good about them again.

Because destroyers, cruiser, carriers, battleship’s can all attack them!!!

That’s not that good and sometimes planes can attack them.

[Axisgirl]

Like I said. The mods dont like the idea of a girl playing a board game. My posts get deleted every day.

[Dylan the Canadian]

@Axisgirl:

Like I said. The mods dont like the idea of a girl playing a board game. My posts get deleted every day.

message one.

[Axisgirl]

I cant see that doing any good. Which one?

[Dylan the Canadian]

@Axisgirl:

I cant see that doing any good. Which one?

Find that out yourself

[maverick_76]

@Dylan:

What’s so good about them again.

Because destroyers, cruiser, carriers, battleship’s can all attack them!!!

That’s not that good and sometimes planes can attack them.

I never said subs were all that great, but I admit that they were a little overpowered in the older A&A games because they attacked and defended at 2, could submerge and avoided planes if there wasn’t a destroyer in the sea zone. Now that they only defend on 1, it evens them out a lot more.

[maverick_76]

@Axisgirl:

Like I said. The mods dont like the idea of a girl playing a board game. My posts get deleted every day.

That is strange because sites like this normally welcome ladies with open arms, gives some of us A&A nerds things to dream about (girls that enjoy stuff like this).

[Dylan the Canadian]

@maverick_76:

@Axisgirl:

Like I said. The mods dont like the idea of a girl playing a board game. My posts get deleted every day.

That is strange because sites like this normally welcome ladies with open arms, gives some of us A&A nerds things to dream about (girls that enjoy stuff like this).

I have a girl friend!!!