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The Representational Scale on one Turn in Axis and Allies

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spartan solider
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Hey does anyone know what the “Representational Scale” of one turn sequence in axis and allies is? :?
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4-6 months
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cool, thanks :-D
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I prefer the 6 month figure for all the global games.
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@Imperious:

I prefer the 6 month figure for all the global games.

So it would take 1 year for ships off California to reach Japan?
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So it would take 1 year for ships off California to reach Japan?

IN AA yes.
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@Panzerstahl-Helm

Hi Panzer,

Any Air Base that you control from the beginning of your turn can be upgraded with Heavy Industry 2 Units in order to scramble up to 4 friendly Fighter units.

In other words - an Air Base that is purchased during the game can be upgraded on the same terms as an Air Base that exists from game start.
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[1942.2] Increase Allied territory values instead of bid?

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@Ichabod:

@Argothair:

Ichabod, your idea of boosting capital territories’ income is interesting and worth considering as an alternate way to balance the game, although if we only boost capital territory income, then the Axis will have no incentive to fight over peripheral territories, which will become even more irrelevant to the war. As I’ve mentioned on other threads, it bothers me that Australia, South Africa, the Urals, and Archangel wind up being so irrelevant to the game, even though in reality they were a major component of the Allies’ industrial and logistical capacity.

I agree with you that we should not be boosting any territories that would wind up just being a gift to the Axis, because the Axis have plenty of advantages already, but I think it is actually very hard for the Axis to stack Archangel in the early game – it’s three territories away from Berlin and its adjacent to Moscow, so if the Russians can’t at least trade Archangel (to share the extra income), then you’ve probably reached the endgame.

I assure you, that as the Axis I will be trying to take as many territories as possible to boost my income even if the value is still the original 1 or 2 IPCs. I’ve played 42.2 only a few times. I grew up on Classic/Revised and it’s basically just an updated version. The 2x I played 42.2 however were enough to demonstrate to me how ridiculously unbalanced it is, way worse than G40 (which is my go to game).

Start small, make the capital territories an increased value of 5 IPCs and see if it doesn’t unbalance the game.

I’m telling you if you make irrelevant territories like Archangel or South Africa, or Australia worth more, the Axis will just capture those places, and poof, there goes your game balance and it’s even more lopsided. Archangel was captured on round 2 or 3 of the 2 games I played. It’s easy for Germany to push Russia back in 42.2; heck a caveman could do it.

Axis can grab lands such as South Africa or Australia but I don’t think it might be optimal for Axis.
Such are out of position and, if Germany waste money in Africa, this is less units against Russia.
Same for Japan wasting resources against US instead of crushing India, then going Caucasus or Moscow.

I do agree about Archangel and Karelia, it is on the north way toward Moscow.
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Axis and Allies - Which games are worth extra units ?

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@Arreghas:

You are indeed proving to me that changing any rule set is complex indeed and requires very thoughtful analysis.

Yes, that’s quite correct. An important point to remember is that a complex game such as Global 1940 is similar to other complex devices (such as automotive vehicles): they are systems consisting of multiple interrelated parts which are designed to work together in a particular way and which reflect many design choices and compromises. Sometimes it’s possible to make minor or even major alterations to some of those components without affecting significantly the performance the overall system, but sometimes even a minor adjustment to a single critical component can wreck the whole thing. (Take as an example the recent Galaxy Note 7 debacle. There’s been speculation that Samsung may have changed the electrolyte in the lithium-ion batteries to something less stable, or that it may have gone too far in thinning the separator which keeps the positive and negative sides apart so that the battery doesn’t short-circuit and overheat.) And design considerations have to take into account the fundamental question of what purpose the system is supposed to serve. A luxury limousine, a Formula One race-car and a semi-trailer truck are all automotive vehicles, but they’re all optimized to do specific jobs and they all place different leves of emphasis on different capabilities such as passenger comfort, baggage / cargo-holding capacity, speed, fuel consumption efficiency and so forth.
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It seems to me like in a lot of cases retreat would not be an option, unless like Black Elk said they could choose any adjacent friendly territory.
Here’s an example using 1942.2 with Germany and Russia:
Germany starts with 3 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank and 1 fighter in Ukraine.
Russia starts with 3 infantry, 1 artillery and 1 tank in Caucasus.
Russia decides to send 2 infantry, 1 artillery to Ukraine from Caucasus, 1 infantry, 1 tank to W Russia from Caucasus.
Germany sends 3 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank and 1 fighter to Caucasus from Ukraine.
Now there is a border clash. Let’s say Germany wins losing 2 infantry. Now Germany has 1 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank and 1 fighter that move on into the Caucasus. Basically, Germany now takes control of the Caucasus.
Let’s say the battle in W. Russia goes badly for Russia and they decide to retreat the 1 infantry and 1 tank that came from Caucasus.
How would you handle this retreat? Would they go to Russia or Kazakhstan?
Or would they go back to Caucasus and fight the German units there? If this were the case, would they act as attackers or defenders?
Or, if neither Russia or Kazakhstan were available as retreat options, I guess the infantry and tank simply fight on in W Russia until they are destroyed?
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Scale pieces - BIG MESS

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@Krieghund:

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And also, that is not true about china taking control of the british territories. They can occupy, but not control. Even if india is japanese.

Knp7765 is right. China can control those territories if India is held by the Axis. The wording is a bit ambiguous in the Rulebook, but that’s the intent.

Ah, thanks. And yes, this needs rewording. It says…

“Kwangtung and Burma are special cases. While they are not Chinese territories and cannot be controlled by China, Chinese forces can attack axis units there and occupy them, but the ipcs generated go to the United Kingdom (unless India is under Axis control). These are the only non-chinese territories that chinese units can occupy”

This specifically states that china can’t control them, only occupy. I inferred that the place where it says (unless India is under axis control) simply meant that the ipcs obviously wouldn’t go to india in this case. In fact, this whole paragraph can be boiled down to simply…

“China can defend/take kwangtung and Burma.”

And then obviously you would know that they couldn’t take it unless india was axis controlled.
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My suggestion to the downtime while another player is doing their turn is beer. In the group I play with, the players who are not involved chill out with a couple of brewskies and some light-hearted conversation. Just don’t let the alcohol sway your tactical decisions too much.
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Dude, just click the link they work fine.
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Another way to make it more fair. Give Japan all of the Western hemisphere US territories.

The way you have it set up is:

Ger + UK + 50 % of US.

vs the original setup of GER + Jpn.

In my estimation, Ger + (any other country) makes it an interesting and usually fair game. Adding any more to that will unbalance the economics and/or require a military offset. You may want to also shift the order of nations in the round to prevent the taking of capitals at the game outset.

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