• @Jermofoot:

    @Imperious:

    i will look this up. Defiantly will buy it.

    I’ve been playing L4D2 for a couple of weeks.  Better than the 1st, but I don’t think it has the staying power of the first.  I did about die laughing the first time I played as the Jockey though.

    Play The Passing yet?


  • @kdfsjljklgjfg:

    @Jermofoot:

    @Imperious:

    i will look this up. Defiantly will buy it.

    I’ve been playing L4D2 for a couple of weeks.  Better than the 1st, but I don’t think it has the staying power of the first.  I did about die laughing the first time I played as the Jockey though.

    Play The Passing yet?

    Yup!  Slightly disappointing (so little interaction with the original survivors) but very good and worth the money.  Particularly the Mutations game setting.


  • I bought Alien vs. predator. worst game ever.

    I was thinking it might be like L4D, but the people move like they do in COD4… very slow and the guns suck and its very dark even on maximum brightness.

    don’t buy


  • I played mostly HOI2 doomsday, which prolongs game play into 1953, and then got the Armageddon upgrade which has an alternate universe risk style game which is alot of fun.
    I’ve always enjoyed playing these games, and have gotten pretty into several of them, My favorites being Nationalist China, Soviet Union, Republican Spain, and Italy.
    I was extreamly disapointed by HOI3, as the combat system seems very flawed and has been made overly complicated. I think the game it its stride with the Armageddon upgrade, by far the best and most accurate game they have made so far.
    I still play, its kinda of like A&A on steroids as I head it put once. The level of depth is amazing, and even though it follows history so closely, a good player can still take his nation to greatness. I’ve played Japan once or twice and have managed to overrun China, and rather then attack south, I would always strike north, and help bring down the Soviets, which would be better position me to strike south sometime in 1943 (always played on the fastest setting) One game as Italy I managed to take Egypt, most of northern Sudan and push all the way into Iraq and nearly take Baghdad with the 2 divisions of the DAK and 2 corps, comprising 6 divisions, 2 of which were armoured, and 4 of which were motorized inf, being my principal striking force.
    What great games they were and are, as no 2 games are ever the same.


  • Steam is offering a sale on the Complete Hearts of Iron 2 game (orignal title, and all its expansion and patches) for like 8 bucks or so, its worth checking out


  • that game was fun, but I never knew we could talk about video games,  :-D :-D


  • I love these games, mainly because of their depth. I like being able to effect things on a deeper level. Its not just about moving your arimes here or there, or buying this unit over the other, like in A&A. What type of doctrine you research on how your army will function, building more advanced infantry with ample Artillery support, or building a fast moving mechanized army of tanks and motorized infantry. Also the tactics you as the player employ are extreamly important. It can change the war on a more profound level.
    I have played several games out to their logical conclusion. I have played games that have begun in 1936 and streched into the 50’s. I had one great game as France where I extended the Maginot line all along the Belgium border and kept the Germans out (I call it the fortress France stratgey). The game concluded with the Russians over running all of Germany and me driving hard into the low countires to keep the russkies out. I had also conqured Italy and Austira, along with a chunk of the Balkans. I had develpoed rockets and the A-bomb, and by the late 40’s I was lobbing nuclear tipped ICBMs at the Japanese home islands destroying their IC (which still didnt slow them down too much as they had conqured China earlier in the 40’s and quite the manpower edge anyway). This was only one of several amazing games I have played with HOI, and I enjoyed them all sooooo much.
    I can understand why some dont like the game, its a bit much to take in. Also, unlike me, not everyone is a fan of games that require to put such consideration into logistics and production. But as Zhukov was said “Amatures think stratagey, Professionals think logistics”  :-D


  • @Clyde85:

    I love these games, mainly because of their depth. I like being able to effect things on a deeper level. Its not just about moving your arimes here or there, or buying this unit over the other, like in A&A. What type of doctrine you research on how your army will function, building more advanced infantry with ample Artillery support, or building a fast moving mechanized army of tanks and motorized infantry. Also the tactics you as the player employ are extreamly important. It can change the war on a more profound level.
    I have played several games out to their logical conclusion. I have played games that have begun in 1936 and streched into the 50’s. I had one great game as France where I extended the Maginot line all along the Belgium border and kept the Germans out (I call it the fortress France stratgey). The game concluded with the Russians over running all of Germany and me driving hard into the low countires to keep the russkies out. I had also conqured Italy and Austira, along with a chunk of the Balkans. I had develpoed rockets and the A-bomb, and by the late 40’s I was lobbing nuclear tipped ICBMs at the Japanese home islands destroying their IC (which still didnt slow them down too much as they had conqured China earlier in the 40’s and quite the manpower edge anyway). This was only one of several amazing games I have played with HOI, and I enjoyed them all sooooo much.
    I can understand why some dont like the game, its a bit much to take in. Also, unlike me, not everyone is a fan of games that require to put such consideration into logistics and production. But as Zhukov was said “Amatures think stratagey, Professionals think logistics”  :-D

    So you never got the lesson to make a  white towel. This is so inaccurate  :-D


  • @Dylan:

    So you never got the lesson to make a  white towel. This is so inaccurate  :-D

    what is inaccurate excatly?


  • @Clyde85:

    @Dylan:

    So you never got the lesson to make a  white towel. This is so inaccurate  :-D

    what is inaccurate excatly?

    France are suppose because we are suppose to laugh at them, because they are French!


  • Dont misunderstand, if played poorly, or at all historicaly (which is what an AI controled France usually does) France falls like a house of cards during the German blitz in 1940. However, the game dose give you the flexability to change all that, espically if you start early enough, like in 1936. If you, as France, make some minor administraitive changes, a few leaderships changes, and revise French forigen and domestic military policy, you will have a real power house on your hands.
    France did have the largest army in western Europe during the opening of WW2, and you can still have such a force, but if you play it right and learn from the mistakes of history, this force will romp the Germans come 1939.
    I can recall an advertising poster I saw for the game once, it was a picture of the marines raising the flag on Iwo Jima, but instead of the stars and stripes, its was the nazi flag. The tag-line read, “History is in you hands……Dont screw it up”


  • But still their France, that should be enough said.


  • It is never as simple as all that


  • @Clyde85:

    It is never as simple as all that

    With the acception of France!


  • @Dylan:

    @Clyde85:

    It is never as simple as all that

    With the acception of France!

    I accept.  France was pretty cool.


  • @Jermofoot:

    @Dylan:

    @Clyde85:

    It is never as simple as all that

    With the acception of France!

    I accept.  France was pretty cool.

    No they aren’t


  • @Dylan:

    @Jermofoot:

    @Dylan:

    @Clyde85:

    It is never as simple as all that

    With the acception of France!

    I accept.  France was pretty cool.

    No they aren’t

    Have you been?  Have you ever seen a sexy French woman speak?  Have you ever tried a nice French wine?  Strolled by or ate in a patesserie?

    Cause if you had, you wouldn’t say crap like that.


  • OK, enough. Dylan, This thread is ment to be about the Hearts of Iron game, not about your immature need to bash the French. In game terms, France is a fun power to play. They have alot of potential for a player to sieze upon and mold into a force capable of taking down the mighty Wermacht. If you have nothing else to add on the subject of the game, please stop posting in here


  • I’m running an interesting game right now. I joined the war from day 1 as the US with the Allies, and right now I’m in August '41. Since February, my landing force of about 250,000 men has held the thin peninsula of Denmark, whilst the lazy AI did nothing. Seriously, UK hasn’t done a thing except sit on their isles and do nothing, but my landing force has held. On one occasion, 167,000 US troops held off about 1,175,000 German, Austrian (Germany didn’t do the Anschluss, and Austria consequently joined the Axis), Italian, and Hungarian troops, inflicting twice as many casaulties as taken.

    I’m literally soloing the axis powers, as the Soviet Union didn’t even enter the war yet, as Germany didn’t trigger Barbarossa. They didn’t even do the MR-Pact, they just annexed Poland on their own.


  • That awesome!!  The UK ai really dose suck, they never send more then airforces to support me when I play as France, and I really need their help most times.
    The poland thing and the no MR pact is intresting. When you change the historical situation in a major way, like the US being in the allies in 39, the rest of the game tends to go alittle screwy. I have a LAN game where my firend and I have teamed up as Japan and Nationalist China, and I cant tell you how off things have gotten!  :lol:

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