I went when I was really young. I think I mainly visited resorts and amusement parks.
Prime Factor
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(plus: you are country founded by religious weirdos (in european terms), otherwise not so much would have emigrated: a point that comes out clearly in other threads)
Pretty strong religious belief… President bush often finish with “god bless america” :)
"No, I don’t know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God.”
George H.W. Bush, as Presidential Nominee for the Republican party; 1987-AUG-27:
“…once a person admits to not believing in God, this raises the question of whether or not that person believes in America…”
Chief spokesman for National office of the Boy Scouts
“The Boy Scouts of America maintain that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing his obligation to God.”
Statement on the Boy Scouts of America membership form.
If you’re not a born-again Christian, you’re a failure as a human being.
Jery Falwell
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Take those quotes with a grain of salt - I’m a US Navy Veteran, patriot, and oh yes, an atheist. Hey, if you can’t find a deity to give your allegience to, believe in your country. You’ve all pointed out the faults in the US and other countries, help make the future better for our children…
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“everyone can make it to the top with hard work”.
not everyone screws someone for money my friend! Not saying my father was never screwed by others, but he made himself what he is with a lot of hard work and some help from very friendly people. You seem to think that “if someone has money, he must of stepped on a lot of people’s backs in the diamond mines”, but this isn’t true.
America has more economic oppurtunity because they have more money. If America becomes Somalia, then that isn’t going to happen.
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"No, I don’t know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God.”
George H.W. Bush, as Presidential Nominee for the Republican party; 1987-AUG-27:
I can only assume (as a patriot and a citizen):
- Bush is a damned fool for saying that (and you can quote me on that)
- He doesn’t exactly understand the meaning of 1st Amendment
- Both
“…once a person admits to not believing in God, this raises the question of whether or not that person believes in America…”
Chief spokesman for National office of the Boy Scouts (And all the other Boy Scout Quotes)
I can only assume (As a former Boy Scout)
- That Chief is a damned fool for saying that (and you can quote me on that)
- I have friends who use to be in the Boy Scouts that freely admit to being Atheists (even came close to converting me)
- He doesn’t exactly understand the meaning of the 1st Amendment
- He assumes all Atheist are probably Russian Commies runnin’ about and causing all sorts of havok.
“And Jesus siad, render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s.”
“Pay no attention to Caesar. Caesar doesn’t have the slightest idea what’s really going on.” - Bokonon -
Don’t take what these people say as a representation of what American’s think! Just overly-religious morons!
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just some funny quote, i don’t think they’re are the “average american”, still atheism in america is not very common, even in the scientific “classes” (i don’t like this word but i cannot find any other)
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most americans believe in god, but by no means does it govern their lives…they do get offended easily!
The worst one i heard was “God loves America the most…”
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most americans believe in god, but by no means does it govern their lives…they do get offended easily!
The worst one i heard was “God loves America the most…”
I find THIS pretty worrying
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“God loves America the most”
I think that is more than worrying….
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Perhaps I’m a little too innocent, but I find that quote quite hilarious. If it wasn’t created by someone with a sense of humor then I would very worried.
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Perhaps I’m a little too innocent, but I find that quote quite hilarious. If it wasn’t created by someone with a sense of humor then I would very worried.
I’m guessing that you are correct. It sounds very . . . comment es q’on dit . . . satirical?
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@cystic:
Perhaps I’m a little too innocent, but I find that quote quite hilarious. If it wasn’t created by someone with a sense of humor then I would very worried.
I’m guessing that you are correct. It sounds very . . . comment es q’on dit . . . satirical?
its not, it is the opinion of a bus driver! Crazy eh? People are messed up in the head.
If God loved any Country, he had to love…wait, all countries suck!
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most americans believe in god, but by no means does it govern their lives…they do get offended easily!
The worst one i heard was “God loves America the most…”
I find THIS pretty worrying
so do I…people belive in God because they were brought up to…don’t dis god, but God can’t cramp their style.
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people belive in God because they were brought up to
Sound like Richard Dawkins analogy (religion is a virus)
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people belive in God because they were brought up to
Sound like Richard Dawkins analogy (religion is a virus)
so is patriotism, beliefs about education, economies, just about anything. Also many people disbelieve in God as another tool to rebel against their parents. Too simplistic.
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I’m with TG on that thing about Bush being a idiot because of his beliefs in religion being a part of the nation. The sad part of it is that its true, at least in schools because ever since the beginning of the 20th century there had always been conflicts between public schools and teachers or parents over things like teaching the theory of evolution in schools which they wouldn’t because it was against the word of the bible or something along those lines. Then we move along to about the '50’s or '60’s where atheist parents or parents of different religions were fighting to have prayer removed from schools because reciting it was against their beliefs(atheists by having to pray to god) or because it wasnt their god(case of muslims or most any other religion than christian). Worse yet, some of the hardcore christians have, even to this day, continued to fight to put prayer in the public school system even though it was removed since it was a conflict between the state and church.
I’m not saying religion is bad or anything, I’m just trying to show how the government had tried to mix religion with state which shouldn’t be done not just because of my belief that is shouldn’t but because its in our Constitition that church and state are to be separated.
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“I’m with TG on that thing about Bush being a idiot because of his beliefs in religion being a part of the nation”
name one example whe he signed legislation because of religion?
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“If God loved any Country, he had to love…wait, all countries suck!”
Nah, I think you’re forgetting a little place called Lesotho. :wink: (We’ll maybe the Vatican if you’re Catholic)
“people belive in God because they were brought up to”
“Also many people disbelieve in God as another tool to rebel against their parents”Nah, my parents are Atheist and I’m not exactly rebelling against them. Of course, I consider owning your own place, cooking your own meals, accepting your own responsibilities, and paying your own bills rebelling.
“theory of evolution in schools. Then we move along to about the '50’s or '60’s where atheist parents or parents of different religions were fighting to have prayer removed from schools because reciting it was against their beliefs(atheists by having to pray to god) or because it wasnt their god(case of muslims or most any other religion than christian). Worse yet, some of the hardcore christians have, even to this day, continued to fight to put prayer in the public school system even though it was removed since it was a conflict between the state and church.”
Well you can agree that things are changing for the better. 100 years ago, evolution was a big no-no in schools. Now it’s finally being taught as a legitimate form of science (though more in microevolution than macroevolution). Plus I don’t remember praying in any of the schools at my age (of course you’re allowed to, ie freedom of speech), so I say we’re finding a nice healthy medium between the two.
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"theory of evolution in schools. Then we move along to about the '50’s or '60’s where atheist parents or parents of different religions were fighting to have prayer removed from schools because reciting it was against their beliefs(atheists by having to pray to god) or because it wasnt their god(case of muslims or most any other religion than christian). "
they are all the same God.
You see, if someone was truly an atheist, or open minded, they wouldn’t care if they heard prayer…but the problem is that school prayer endorses religion and being “religious.” How would you like if your children went to a predominantly Muslim school (detroit maybe), and they had school prayer? Would you want Islam being endorsed? And when religion is endorsed, extreme interpretations follow.
I’m pro prayer though.
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@cystic:
people belive in God because they were brought up to
Sound like Richard Dawkins analogy (religion is a virus)
so is patriotism, beliefs about education, economies, just about anything. Also many people disbelieve in God as another tool to rebel against their parents. Too simplistic.
… i did’nt say otherwise, i just said it was looking like the analogy made by Richard Dawkins…
About a tool against parent, it can go on the other side
- People believe because they are too conformist
- & People don’t believe because they are too non-conformist (in the sence they reject everything without any logical reason).
Still… religion is very present in more conformist society.
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