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L25 G40 OOB Gamerman01 (x) v VictoryFirst (+50)


  • @VictoryFirst said in L25 G40 OOB Gamerman01 (x) v VictoryFirst (+50):

    @gamerman01 said in L25 G40 OOB Gamerman01 (x) v VictoryFirst (+50):

    I would never do the Yunnan bid myself, because my personal opinion is that Japan is designed to take Yunnan J1.

    Interesting. I personally like the Yunnan move. I feel Japan is way too strong otherwise, both from a historical as well as a playability perspective. If China is an easy cakewalk, Japan won’t have a hard time achieving most of its goals unless the Allies are doing some effective KJF strategy. With the Yunnan gambit, the Chinese are a lot harder to defeat and in some cases can actually become a threat. It is a lot harder for Japan to get going in this situation. The Japanese player has to scratch their head more, and the Allies have more breathing room. This makes the game more fun I find. Also, the game is already imbalanced in favor of the Axis so I think it would be only good to do a move that would help the disadvantaged side out.

    Well said! From Allied HQ


  • @crockett36 Thanks crockett! We must also play a game in the future 👍


  • I realize it might be hard to be patient, but I must play Oysteilo next and it’s a monster move that I need a chunk of time and energy for, thanks


  • Please write in the game notes (View -> show comment log) when there are multinational fighters on carriers per league rule #10.

    I went back through the history and see that the ANZ and French fighters are necessarily on 1 US carrier and put it in the game notes


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 3

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            COMMENT: 1 ANZ and 1 French fighter on 1 US carrier in 91
            Italians buy 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Italians
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • Scramble fighters to 92?


  • @gamerman01 Full scramble


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 3

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            COMMENT: 1 ANZ and 1 French fighter on 1 US carrier in 91
            Italians buy 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Italians
            British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer; Americans defend with 2 fighters; ANZAC defend with 1 fighter
                    Italians roll dice for 2 submarines in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.50 expected hits
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -1.50
    British regular : 0.50
    

    Savegame


  • I should have asked for casualties on the attack roll

    Advantage you -

    What 2 hits do you take?


  • @gamerman01 Damage the BB and kill the Cruiser


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            COMMENT: 1 ANZ and 1 French fighter on 1 US carrier in 91
            Italians buy 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Italians
            British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer; Americans defend with 2 fighters; ANZAC defend with 1 fighter
                    Italians roll dice for 2 submarines in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    2 fighters owned by the Italians and 2 submarines owned by the Italians lost in 92 Sea Zone
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone
                1 bomber owned by the Italians retreated
                2 destroyers owned by the Italians and 1 cruiser owned by the Italians retreated to 93 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -24
                Casualties for Italians: 2 fighters and 2 submarines
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Gibraltar
            Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Gibraltar
            Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Gibraltar
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 carrier placed in 93 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -1.50
    British regular : 0.50
    

    Savegame

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    Well, that could have gone very wrong for me. I must confess I didn’t see the possibility of Italy buying a carrier and allowing the fighters to take part in the battle. I am glad I got away with it.

    I realized you didn’t use my edited save with the UK fighters being in Syria instead of Trans-Jordan, I will edit that at the start of ANZAC’s turn if that’s still OK with you.

    Sorry for forgetting to comment about the fighters on carriers. Will start doing that from now on 👍


  • @gamerman01 said in L25 G40 OOB Gamerman01 (x) v VictoryFirst (+50):

    I realize it might be hard to be patient, but I must play Oysteilo next and it’s a monster move that I need a chunk of time and energy for, thanks

    We agreed that you can take as long as you want, so no worries about patience 😀 I don’t mind waiting here at all. I’ll just send friendly reminders in case you forget about the game (which is something that happens to me more often than not 😅).


  • Thanks, those are nice words -
    the dice can make a player look like a genius, or the opposite!


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 3

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            COMMENT: 1 ANZ and 1 French fighter on 1 US carrier in 91
            Italians buy 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Italians
            British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer; Americans defend with 2 fighters; ANZAC defend with 1 fighter
                    Italians roll dice for 2 submarines in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    2 fighters owned by the Italians and 2 submarines owned by the Italians lost in 92 Sea Zone
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone
                1 bomber owned by the Italians retreated
                2 destroyers owned by the Italians and 1 cruiser owned by the Italians retreated to 93 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -24
                Casualties for Italians: 2 fighters and 2 submarines
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Gibraltar
            Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Gibraltar
            Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Gibraltar
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 carrier placed in 93 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Iraq: 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Trans-Jordan: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Syria: 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -1.50
    British regular : 0.50
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 3

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            COMMENT: 1 ANZ and 1 French fighter on 1 US carrier in 91
            Italians buy 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 92 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Italians
            British scrambles 3 units out of Gibraltar to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone
            Battle in 92 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer; Americans defend with 2 fighters; ANZAC defend with 1 fighter
                    Italians roll dice for 2 submarines in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    2 fighters owned by the Italians and 2 submarines owned by the Italians lost in 92 Sea Zone
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 92 Sea Zone
                1 bomber owned by the Italians retreated
                2 destroyers owned by the Italians and 1 cruiser owned by the Italians retreated to 93 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -24
                Casualties for Italians: 2 fighters and 2 submarines
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Gibraltar
            Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Gibraltar
            Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone  back to originating territory: Gibraltar
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from 92 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 carrier placed in 93 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Iraq: 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Trans-Jordan: 2 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Syria: 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from 97 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Yugoslavia: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to 93 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Southern France: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -1.50
    British regular : 0.50
    

    Savegame


  • I made the edits,
    and even though I played against the situation that was later edited, I’ll leave it since I had poor dice and the change doesn’t affect me too much.
    I’m not leaving the transport in 97, though.

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