@cwglee51 I still get this though:
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@Booper That’s wild, don’t see that much haha. I’m hoping I didn’t just use up my luck for the rest of the game. Scramble?
Yes, max scramble
@Booper for OOL I’m guessing max defense?
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 4
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 bomber, 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States
2 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
Germans take Ukraine from Russians
4 armour, 5 artilleries, 21 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
2 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Archangel
Germans take Archangel from Russians
1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Vologda
Germans take Vologda from Russians
1 armour moved from Vologda to Nenetsia
Combat - Germans
British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone
Battle in Baltic States
Germans attack with 3 armour and 8 mech_infantrys
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 8 mech_infantrys in Baltic States, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 2.83 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 3 armour and 8 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in 110 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 5 tactical_bombers
British defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 2 submarines; French defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 1 submarine
Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 6.67 expected hits
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.33
Germans regular : 1.17
Yes
If it looks like a defenders win, I may want to save the CV - you can let me know if it gets close
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 4
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 bomber, 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States
2 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
Germans take Ukraine from Russians
4 armour, 5 artilleries, 21 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
2 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Archangel
Germans take Archangel from Russians
1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Vologda
Germans take Vologda from Russians
1 armour moved from Vologda to Nenetsia
Combat - Germans
British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone
Battle in Baltic States
Germans attack with 3 armour and 8 mech_infantrys
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 8 mech_infantrys in Baltic States, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 2.83 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 3 armour and 8 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in 110 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 5 tactical_bombers
British defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 2 submarines; French defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 1 submarine
Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 6.67 expected hits
Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British and 1 carrier owned by the British
British roll dice for 3 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Germans
British roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 6 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/11 hits, 6.17 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the Germans, 1 submarine owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 2 carriers owned by the Germans, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans and 1 cruiser owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 submarine owned by the Russians and 2 submarines owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/8 hits, 4.67 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 6 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 : 6/10 hits, 5.83 expected hits
3 fighters owned by the Germans and 3 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
1 cruiser owned by the British and 2 carriers owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
1 bomber owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans retreated
British win with 1 battleship and 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -72
Casualties for Germans: 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers
Casualties for British: 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine
Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom
Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom
Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom
3 fighters owned by the British forced to land in United Kingdom
Non Combat Move - Germans
1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
3 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany
1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Baltic States
1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
Place Units - Germans
1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone
2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 Optional[PUs]; end with 60 Optional[PUs]
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.33
Germans regular : -0.50
British regular : 2.50
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 4
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
1 bomber, 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States
2 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
Germans take Ukraine from Russians
4 armour, 5 artilleries, 21 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
2 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Archangel
Germans take Archangel from Russians
1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Vologda
Germans take Vologda from Russians
1 armour moved from Vologda to Nenetsia
Combat - Germans
British scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone
Battle in Baltic States
Germans attack with 3 armour and 8 mech_infantrys
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 8 mech_infantrys in Baltic States, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 2.83 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 3 armour and 8 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in 110 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 5 tactical_bombers
British defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 2 submarines; French defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 1 submarine
Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 6.67 expected hits
Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British and 1 carrier owned by the British
British roll dice for 3 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Germans
British roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 6 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/11 hits, 6.17 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the Germans, 1 submarine owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 2 carriers owned by the Germans, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans and 1 cruiser owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 submarine owned by the Russians and 2 submarines owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/8 hits, 4.67 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 6 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 : 6/10 hits, 5.83 expected hits
3 fighters owned by the Germans and 3 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
1 cruiser owned by the British and 2 carriers owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
1 bomber owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans retreated
British win with 1 battleship and 6 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -72
Casualties for Germans: 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 4 tactical_bombers
Casualties for British: 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine
Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom
Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom
Moving scrambled unit from 110 Sea Zone back to originating territory: United Kingdom
3 fighters owned by the British forced to land in United Kingdom
Non Combat Move - Germans
1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
3 aaGuns moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany
1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Baltic States
1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
Place Units - Germans
1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone
2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 Optional[PUs]; end with 60 Optional[PUs]
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.33
Germans regular : -0.50
British regular : 2.50
@Booper Sorry did not expect to lose that awfully, so I left fighters
@Booper this was the last round, you can pick 3 to lose and edit
1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 6 fighters
OK, will take a look and see what is reasonable. This was a tight one - I ran it through a few times on local, and it went back and forth. Often with big wins for 1 side or the other.
@TinCanoftheSea said in L26 OOB TinCanoftheSea (X) vs Booper (L+44):
@Booper this was the last round, you can pick 3 to lose and edit
1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 6 fighters
Thanks, that’s generous,. but I want to make it a reasonable choice.
OK, on round 3, with Germany having 8 units remaining, and getting 3 hits on the 3rd round, and Allies with 10 units, it’s probably reasonable for Allies to save at least 1 CV. Are you OK with substituting 1 damaged CV for 1 fig?
I will put the edit in, and if not, we can reverse it out.
@Booper Yeah I should’ve ran it more, in the few I did it appeared that it would most likely just be a close battle, didn’t expect to lose the whole airforce and have British troops left
@Booper Yes I’m totally fine with that given I retreated after regardless and didn’t ask you
@Booper I also would have retreated no matter the casualties you picked so it does not impact that decision either
Yeah, but I’m not supposed to know that in advance, so it wouldn’t be fair to just save the highest value units, like both CVs and the cruiser. I’m good with just the 1 CV if you are.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 2 artilleries and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
Russians take Vologda from Germans
1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to 127 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Russia to Archangel
1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Archangel
7 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
2 infantry moved from Timguska to Urals
2 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
Russians take Western Ukraine from Germans
2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
2 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Iraq
1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Iraq
Combat - Russians
Battle in 127 Sea Zone
Russians attack with 1 tactical_bomber
Germans defend with 2 transports
2 transports owned by the Germans lost in 127 Sea Zone
Russians win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
Casualties for Germans: 2 transports
Battle in Archangel
Russians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 7 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 7 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 2.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Battle in Iraq
Russians attack with 2 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys
Italians defend with 1 armour and 3 infantry
Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 2 : 2/12 hits, 3.00 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Iraq
2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Iraq
Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 7 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 3 : 3/10 hits, 2.67 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Iraq, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Iraq
1 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Iraq
Russians win, taking Iraq from Italians with 2 armour, 1 fighter and 6 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Casualties for Italians: 1 armour and 3 infantry
Non Combat Move - Russians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Vologda: 1 infantry
EDIT: Changing ownership of Vologda from Russians to Germans
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 fighter moved from Iraq to Persia
1 tactical_bomber moved from 127 Sea Zone to Urals
2 fighters moved from Archangel to Bryansk
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Archangel
1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Tambov
1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
Place Units - Russians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bryansk: 1 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Russia
1 infantry placed in Volgograd
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs
Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 41 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.67
Germans regular : 0.67
Russians regular : -0.33
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 2 artilleries and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
Russians take Vologda from Germans
1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to 127 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Russia to Archangel
1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Archangel
7 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
2 infantry moved from Timguska to Urals
2 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
Russians take Western Ukraine from Germans
2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
2 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Iraq
1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Iraq
Combat - Russians
Battle in 127 Sea Zone
Russians attack with 1 tactical_bomber
Germans defend with 2 transports
2 transports owned by the Germans lost in 127 Sea Zone
Russians win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
Casualties for Germans: 2 transports
Battle in Archangel
Russians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 7 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 7 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 2.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel
Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Battle in Iraq
Russians attack with 2 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys
Italians defend with 1 armour and 3 infantry
Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 2 : 2/12 hits, 3.00 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Iraq
2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Iraq
Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 7 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 3 : 3/10 hits, 2.67 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Iraq, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Iraq
1 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Iraq
Russians win, taking Iraq from Italians with 2 armour, 1 fighter and 6 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Casualties for Italians: 1 armour and 3 infantry
Non Combat Move - Russians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Vologda: 1 infantry
EDIT: Changing ownership of Vologda from Russians to Germans
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 fighter moved from Iraq to Persia
1 tactical_bomber moved from 127 Sea Zone to Urals
2 fighters moved from Archangel to Bryansk
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Archangel
1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Tambov
1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
Place Units - Russians
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bryansk: 1 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Russia
1 infantry placed in Volgograd
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs
Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 41 PUs
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing ownership of Vologda from Germans to Russians
EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Bryansk: 1 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Vologda: 1 infantry
EDIT: Changing PUs for Russians from 41 to 42
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.67
Germans regular : 0.67
Russians regular : -0.33
@TinCanoftheSea said in L26 OOB TinCanoftheSea (X) vs Booper (L+44):
@Booper Yeah I should’ve ran it more, in the few I did it appeared that it would most likely just be a close battle, didn’t expect to lose the whole airforce and have British troops left
Yeah, with these mid-sized battles, the results can vary wildly. Some crazy carnage this game for sure.
I made an edit, and then reversed it out again - please use the 2nd file - thx!
@Booper Yeah just the carrier works for me, and yes definitely a lot of TUV dropping faster than normal