http://comandosupremo.com/cantz1018.html
This is what this plane was supposed to be I think!?
It was a variation of the B.20 late war.
You may be correct here! (At least we will have our bomber complete for Japan!)
http://comandosupremo.com/cantz1018.html
This is what this plane was supposed to be I think!?
It was a variation of the B.20 late war.
You may be correct here! (At least we will have our bomber complete for Japan!)
That’s a CANT Z.1018. Only 15 were built. That’s definately not a variation of the B.20, and wasn’t particularly successful, even before the armistice.
Keep that one for the japanese bomber and use the Savoia Marchetti SM 79 sparviero for the italian bomber. It is easy to recognize and was an icon of the regia aeronautica as it was largely used.
If not, use as a model an italian heavy bomber with 4 engines.
Piaggio P.108 Bombardiere this one is nice, large and has 4 engines - heavy bomber.
What about a better Italian Transport? We have a B.20 Bomber sculpt already. I used it as the transport as my research showed that there was a troop transport /Air drop variation?
Any ideas about a better ITALIAN Transport?
If possible provide a technical image like that above (Good for sculptor)
FMG,
Read the Wikipedia article about the P.108 - it mentions that most were converted to use as air transports, and even the Luftwaffe used them as such.
FMG,
Read the Wikipedia article about the P.108 - it mentions that most were converted to use as air transports, and even the Luftwaffe used them as such.
Thank you for your help. My concern is that the P.108 is for engine and bigger than the B.20. We can’t have an air transport that is bigger than the bomber!
Maybe we can keep the B.20 as the Bomber/transport and build the P.180? What do you think?
Can anyone find me a technical drawing of this aircraft?
The italian transport is fine. As for the italian heavy bomber… you cant go wrong with the Savoia Marchetti SM 79, it was the most used and recognized easily. I found drawings of the two, the SM 79 and the piaggio p-108.
Yeah, My vote is to keep the B.20 as the transport as well.
Your call on the heavy bomber - I prefer the P.108 for the 4 engine config.
THANK YOU!!!
Lets hear what others think. I like the four engine bomber… it will be easily recognizable on the board.
THANK YOU!!!
Lets hear what others think. I like the four engine bomber… it will be easily recognizable on the board.
For what it’s worth, I prefer the SM79, as the shape and tri rotor config is more uniquely Italian and it was their primary bomber. It’s not technically a heavy bomber, but the P.108 never got out of it’s teething period and the Italians were out of the war before it could really be used. And considering the P.108 was inferior to a B17 is pretty much every way, it hardly could be called a heavy bomber.
If each power nation ends up with a 4 engine bomber I don’t see how it’s all that unique other than nation color. Not to mention that the Italians will probably NEVER get “heavy bomber” tech, so why make a figure indicative of a technology they didn’t come close to acquiring in the war, or in a game?
Which models were used to design the italian trucks and halftracks? Really looking forward to see those beauties! :-D
Which models were used to design the italian trucks and halftracks? Really looking forward to see those beauties! :-D
These are almost done! Should have images next week! …and the Italian sub I am told.
I like the SM79 also… it has a very unique look just like the 202 Fogalore Fighter
My vote goes to the SM79 as heavy bomber
I also cast my vote for the SM 79 for the Italian bomber. I thought that one was decided on when FMG first started this project. I was really looking forward to seeing the SM 79 pieces.
The transport plane looks really cool. That’s one I hadn’t seen before.
I would go with the SM79 on account of its uniqueness. Unless of course you were already planning on having all nations with 4 engine heavy bombers. If that was to be the case then go with the four engine sculpt.
P.S. Sorry about the sculpt mishap. Its nice to know that FMG cares enough about their products that they would consider resculpting instead of simply shipping out USA cruisers in orange for example.
The japanese bomber will be the Betty so… not all nations have 4 engine bombers, no problem with the SM 79.
Having all the Nations heavy bombers be 4 engine would eliminate some confusion when they are scattered around the board.
The japanese bomber will be the Betty so… not all nations have 4 engine bombers, no problem with the SM 79.
Good point. Go with the 3 engine SM79.
