2024 PTV Finals axis-dominion (x+11) vs daaras

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    @Daaras said in 2024 PTV Finals axis-dominion (x+11) vs daaras:

    @axis-dominion Yeah, I think I really lost the game when Japan took the middle east. You and I have very similar playstyles and strategies. You are currently ravaging my brother with my patented abandon the pacific strategy. We both seem to believe the best way to play PTV is “Win the Med, then win the game”.

    I just took too long to get into the med, and even then it wasn’t enough. Japan was just too big and too strong.

    Once we got into the middle of the game I thought my only real way to win was going to be to grind germany into the dust. Which I felt like I was close to doing, but just couldn’t quite get there. The thought with the Austria attack was basically that if I won with average to above average dice, I think the Russians could’ve drove hard for Leningrad and the Nordic money, AND america could’ve sent half the navy or so to Pacific. However, the dice ended up being poor, and I just didn’t have enough.

    The issue in reality was that Germany had all of their NO’s, so despite having no threat to Russia, lost all of Balkans, USA in Italy etc, the Germans were still making around 70+. (This just makes me want to go full Kreigsmarine in like every game. You don’t need the Russian money in PTV)

    I knew I was losing, and my only real hope was getting a huge battle to swing things in my favor. I thought Austria was my best chance. If I won with like 5+ extra units (which in a battle that huge isnt crazy) it wouldve been an ipc swing of well over 100.

    It was a very well played game, and I am going to beat myself up for 2 big mistakes that probably cost me the game, but it was still fun.

    Side note. What do you prefer to do as the allies vs the Axis Rock?

    i guess my point is, even if you had 5+ extra planes after that battle, you’d have lost just about all your ground forces and hence your main leverage/threats over me. i didn’t mind the tuv loss, even if it was over 100 etc. i think i was well ahead that it wouldn’t matter strategically. what mattered more, strategically, was not being so squeezed and threatened everywhere, as you had great mobility and threat projection with all that force and transports to pivot anywhere in the med quickly.


  • @axis-dominion I definitely understand your point, and if the game were closer (i.e. pacific not being so dreadful) I wouldn’t have sent it. I just think when you’re losing you have to send some riskier attacks. I was definitely hoping for another blessing from Marti lol.

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    @Daaras said in 2024 PTV Finals axis-dominion (x+11) vs daaras:

    You are currently ravaging my brother with my patented abandon the pacific strategy. We both seem to believe the best way to play PTV is “Win the Med, then win the game”.

    wait, so @mikawagunichi is your brother?


  • @axis-dominion yes, and apparently being “ravaged”


  • @mikawagunichi said in 2024 PTV Finals axis-dominion (x+11) vs daaras:

    @axis-dominion yes, and apparently being “ravaged”

    hahaha

    well i didn’t know you were bros lol


  • @axis-dominion yes very embarrassing to have my little bro with more ELO. much work to be done

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    @Daaras said in 2024 PTV Finals axis-dominion (x+11) vs daaras:

    @axis-dominion Yeah, I think I really lost the game when Japan took the middle east. You and I have very similar playstyles and strategies. You are currently ravaging my brother with my patented abandon the pacific strategy. We both seem to believe the best way to play PTV is “Win the Med, then win the game”.

    I just took too long to get into the med, and even then it wasn’t enough. Japan was just too big and too strong.

    Once we got into the middle of the game I thought my only real way to win was going to be to grind germany into the dust. Which I felt like I was close to doing, but just couldn’t quite get there. The thought with the Austria attack was basically that if I won with average to above average dice, I think the Russians could’ve drove hard for Leningrad and the Nordic money, AND america could’ve sent half the navy or so to Pacific. However, the dice ended up being poor, and I just didn’t have enough.

    The issue in reality was that Germany had all of their NO’s, so despite having no threat to Russia, lost all of Balkans, USA in Italy etc, the Germans were still making around 70+. (This just makes me want to go full Kreigsmarine in like every game. You don’t need the Russian money in PTV)

    I knew I was losing, and my only real hope was getting a huge battle to swing things in my favor. I thought Austria was my best chance. If I won with like 5+ extra units (which in a battle that huge isnt crazy) it wouldve been an ipc swing of well over 100.

    It was a very well played game, and I am going to beat myself up for 2 big mistakes that probably cost me the game, but it was still fun.

    Side note. What do you prefer to do as the allies vs the Axis Rock?

    i will say, i think it’s more in the way you “abandoned” the pacific, especially with the early pivoting, that i think just was very inefficient and gave axis too much freedom on both sides


  • @mikawagunichi said in 2024 PTV Finals axis-dominion (x+11) vs daaras:

    @axis-dominion yes very embarrassing to have my little bro with more ELO. much work to be done

    hahahha

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    there were also some key details you were missing around things like allowing me to strategically bomb your bases and slow down your movements and threats, that overall contributed to that feeling of taking too long, for example, to get into the med and so on. those kinds of oversights can really have larger strategic ramifications as i think they had in this game


  • @axis-dominion Yeah, I definitely learned a lot. This was the first time I had ever been Axis Rocked. At first I was under the impression that Russia would go nuts, but that was very wrong. I only pivoted to Pacific because I couldn’t kill your Gib navy.

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    @Daaras said in 2024 PTV Finals axis-dominion (x+11) vs daaras:

    Side note. What do you prefer to do as the allies vs the Axis Rock?

    oh i was taking your usage of “axis rocked” as an expression as in you got rocked or punished by the axis. but with your usage here it’s almost like you’re referring to a specific strategy (“the” Axis Rock) and you have it in caps. so i think i may have missed it if it is a specific strategy discussed somewhere?


  • @axis-dominion yeah, The Axis Rock is the axis stacking Gibraltar.

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