@nikola1975 said in PTV L25 PlayOff: Surfer (Allies) vs Nikola1975 (Axis +9):
@surfer Yes :) Let’s see how you react.
Ok. Let’s try this. Scramble orders?
oysteilo and mikawagunichi vs crockett36 & Stucifer team Gamerman's setup
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@crockett36 @Stucifer You guys nabbed a plane and the Canadian transport lives, getting close to gg here!
Mikawa released his ships to operate independently of his flagship, and at 01:31 he ordered "Every ship attack."
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@mikawagunichi you lost a chunk in France too! Nice opening for the Allies.
I will be surprised if Allies win all the games. Shocked, even.
I would wager on Gamerman and Booper in their match against Daaras and FranceNeedsMorePower. And I think we’re in for a rough time against mikawagunichi and Oysteilo, neither of them are slouches here!
And yes, I love the game for what it is, but I think the game was developed with a different focus.
Some of the A&A games are quite well balanced (Anniversary 1942 setup without National Objectives, and 1942 2nd Edition), while others are wildly unbalanced – 1940 Global and 1914. Classic was also heavily Allies-favored, without the Russia rule for round one.
I’m fine with that, I enjoy these games a lot. As a kid I would tinker with the pieces on the Classic map and make up different scenarios for a “WW3” style setup. The flexibility of the game mechanics being commutable to many different versions is a testament to the excellence of its design foundation. I’m more in the tinker & improve camp myself, I have spent countless hours making alternative setups, such as a 1942 setup for PtV and a 1942 setup for YoungGrasshopper’s Tournament edition.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Ukraine: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Russia: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Eastern Poland: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 71 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 91 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 110 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Egypt: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 101 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Szechwan: 1 aaGun EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Shensi: 1 aaGun EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Hunan: 1 aaGun EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Chahar: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Anhwe: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Hopei: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 101 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 101 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France 1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia 1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia Combat - Germans Battle in Yugoslavia Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 3/13 hits, 4.67 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 5/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 2 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer; French defend with 1 cruiser Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 6.00 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British British roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 cruiser owned by the French and 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 : 8/10 hits, 6.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship in 110 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone Germans win with 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 29 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for French: 1 cruiser Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in France Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 2 : 3/20 hits, 6.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in France 1 aaGun owned by the French and 2 infantry owned by the French lost in France Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 3 : 8/16 hits, 5.67 expected hits French roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry in France, round 3 : 4/9 hits, 3.67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in France 1 armour owned by the French, 4 infantry owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British, 1 armour owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 4 : 6/12 hits, 4.67 expected hits French roll dice for 1 fighter in France, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the French lost in France Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 7 infantry Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery Battle in 106 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone British win with 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French Non Combat Move - Germans 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis 2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France 3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis 1 infantry moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy 1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 58 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
French regular : -0.67 Neutral_Allies regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -1.33 British regular : 1.67 -
@mikawagunichi placed units and posted end of German turn for you so I can do USSR, but feel free to edit if the inf should go somewhere else
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 artillery and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Russians Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied Combat Move - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Sikang 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Kazakhstan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Tsinghai 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Russia 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Tsinghai 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Novosibirsk 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod 3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine 2 aaGuns moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov Place Units - Russians 3 infantry placed in Ukraine 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Novgorod 6 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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J1 coming up this weekend
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 factory_minor and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan 2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan 1 fighter moved from Korea to Chahar 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Chahar 1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Anhwe 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Anhwe Combat - Japanese Battle in Chahar Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Chahar, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar Japanese win, taking Chahar from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Anhwe Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Anhwe, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Anhwe Japanese win, taking Anhwe from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 4 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 3.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 aaGun and 2 infantry Chinese roll AA dice in Hunan : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan 2 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 aaGun owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Chahar to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsi 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 armour moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria Place Units - Japanese 1 factory_minor placed in Shantung 2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 40 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.00 Japanese regular : -2.17 Chinese AA : 0.50 -
A couple of considerations. I think J1 is really hard to do with the current set up, so that is probably something to consider for future games. It looks like a J1 will leave china for china (with the extra chinese set up power). I have not studied it carefully so I can be wrong
As for bids. Bids depend on so many things and I think maybe the game was not designed for online play with battle calculator? My friend and I never use bid when we play face to face. Instead we use beer and wine. In addition we dont use battle calculator either so all “calculations” are just a best guess. With these limitations it is very possible for the allies to win this game with the OOB set-up
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