BM Surfer (L+15) vs Farmboy (X)

[farmboy]

And perfectly reasonable to want to end it now rather than spend time playing that could be spent with family. My thinking was maybe with a couple of more turns an outcome will be more clear but we can agree to stop here. And if no tie, it seems like we are both amenable to conceding

[axis-dominion]

i started following this game with interest very recently, and i think it deserves a real and unnecessarily rushed conclusion. it’s exciting to see a new contender emerge in the small and shrinking competitive circles, so let’s not stifle that in any way. i think farmboy should be allowed entry into the playoffs given his status as the current champ and that he’s been faithful in trying to meet the minimum game requirement even though that is no longer reasonable given the drastic drop in bm popularity for various reasons (another topic) and i’m confident there will be zero objection from the rest of the league on that slight bending of the rule.

[farmboy]

@axis-dominion Thanks AD. I’ll be in no matter what. Agree this game is a good one, but I’m okay if it has to end now to get in the playoffs. I’ll let gamerman decide on this, but think it is fair whatever he decides.

And even if the game ends for league purposes now, Surfer and I have the option of playing it out to see what would happen. .

And @surfer, I missed a sentence in my last message. I was just saying if you weren’t ready to concede (which I think is reasonable) I cna do it as I’m the one that needs the game for the playoffs.

[gamerman01]

Yeah, no, like I said in PM

Not generally, though I think it’s been done before
I’d have to make an exception - case by case basis - there are circumstances where I think it would be acceptable but generally someone needs to resign it, or just accept that they can’t qualify this year

As to those circumstances - it matters if we’re talking about you and the BM playoffs…
We could even make an exception to where the game doesn’t have to be called at all, win, lose, or draw, if you’re really needed in the BM playoffs, if everyone wants you, and you’re already at 5

But you are such an important presence for that playoff, that if no one is opposed then we would bend the rules

Case by case basis, I don’t like to make exceptions but this is an exception all things considered. Surfer qualified anyway, exception will be made to include farmboy,

Complete this game as normal

[farmboy]

@gamerman01 sorry, I seemed to misread that. And thanks!

[farmboy]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 19

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 19

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        3 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium
        1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Romania
        2 armour moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
              Italians take Northwest Persia from British

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Yugoslavia
            Italians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Yugoslavia
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Yugoslavia
            Italians win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Romania
            Italians attack with 1 bomber and 3 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Romania
            Italians win, taking Romania from Americans with 1 bomber and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            British defend with 2 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Holland Belgium
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium
            Italians win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
        1 bomber moved from Romania to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        3 infantry placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 6
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,1,2,5,2,5,4
        Italians collect 2 PUs (6 lost to blockades); end with 4 PUs
        Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 6 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.33
Italians regular : -1.67
British regular : -0.67

Savegame

[surfer]

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 19

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 19

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in 44 Sea Zone
            ANZAC attack with 1 submarine
            Japanese defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 44 Sea Zone
            ANZAC win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
        Battle in 46 Sea Zone
            ANZAC attack with 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 46 Sea Zone
            ANZAC win with 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from New South Wales to 54 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan

    Place Units - ANZAC
        2 submarines placed in 62 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        2 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
        1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Bulgaria
        1 infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0.33
ANZAC regular : 0.00

Savegame

[surfer]

@farmboy Pac fleet. There is only 1 open spot (29 ftrs for 15 CVs) which is on US CV. The ANZAC tac is on ANZAC CV.

[surfer]

Also, the french Inf boarded the US transport in Gibraltar

[farmboy]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 20

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 20

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 4 artilleries, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern France
        3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Southern France
        2 infantry moved from France to Southern France
        1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
              Germans take Yugoslavia from Americans
        1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
        1 armour moved from Volgograd to Rostov
              Germans take Rostov from Russians
        1 armour moved from Rostov to Caucasus

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 111 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 submarine
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 111 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 destroyer, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
        Battle in Southern France
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry
            Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Southern France
            Germans win, taking Southern France from Americans with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Southern France to Western Germany
        3 fighters moved from Southern France to Western Germany
        1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
        3 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Romania
        1 aaGun moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
        3 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
        4 armour moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
        1 armour moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
        21 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Romania
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Romania
        1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Caucasus
        9 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        3 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Belarus
        1 infantry moved from Tambov to Bryansk
        1 aaGun, 24 artilleries and 53 infantry moved from Volgograd to Tambov
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 armour moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
        1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to France
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Russia

    Place Units - Germans
        1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters placed in 112 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries placed in France
        3 infantry placed in Novgorod
        1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2,6,4,2,6,4,4
        Germans collect 64 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 64 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 Optional[PUs]; end with 69 Optional[PUs]
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 89 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.50
Germans regular : 0.67

Savegame

[surfer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 20

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 20

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 armour, 19 artilleries, 70 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
              Russians take Bessarabia from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Timguska
              Russians take Timguska from Germans

    Combat - Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        3 aaGuns moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Iraq
        2 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai

    Turn Complete - Russians

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[farmboy]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 20

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 20

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 harbour, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 4 submarines and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 1 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang
              Japanese take Sikang from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Tsagaan Olom to Kansu
              Japanese take Kansu from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 31 Sea Zone to Wake Island
        1 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
        1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        7 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        4 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        7 fighters and 7 tactical_bombers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Midway
        Battle in Wake Island
        Battle in 44 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 15 fighters and 11 tactical_bombers
            ANZAC defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 15 fighters and 11 tactical_bombers in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 10/27 hits, 15.17 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the ANZAC lost in 44 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Midway from Americans, taking Wake Island from Americans, taking 44 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 destroyer, 15 fighters and 11 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        6 carriers, 1 destroyer and 17 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 21 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from India to West India
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma
        1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi
        1 infantry moved from Central Mongolia to Dzavhan
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
        2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        12 fighters moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        9 tactical_bombers moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 44 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        3 fighters moved from Philippines to French Indo China
        2 fighters moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Korea

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in Japan
        1 harbour placed in Java
        2 submarines placed in 37 Sea Zone
        1 marine placed in Malaya
        2 submarines placed in 36 Sea Zone
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 42 Sea Zone: 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 42 Sea Zone: 3 fighters
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Java: 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 42 Sea Zone: 1 transport
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 75 PUs; end with 76 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 79 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs
        Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 89 PUs
        Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 94 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -5.17
ANZAC regular : -0.17

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