@simon33 yeah, thought the same after I posted it…
BM Surfer (L+15) vs Farmboy (X)
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Not at a computer and can’t open the file which is why I’m double checking
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@farmboy Yep. that is the scenario.
I forgot to use my other bomber to bomb Volgograd. I’ll roll that here
AAA
[dice 1d6<=1] -
1d6<=1: 5; Hits: 0
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Bomb run
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1d6: 5
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TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 15
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3
Game History
Round: 15 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 artillery and 20 infantry moved from Hunan to Anhwe 1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Szechwan Combat - Chinese Battle in Szechwan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan 1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Anhwe Chinese attack with 2 artilleries and 20 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 20 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 5/22 hits, 4.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Anhwe Chinese win, taking Anhwe from Japanese with 2 artilleries and 20 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Shensi 6 infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi Place Units - Chinese 3 infantry placed in Shensi 1 infantry placed in Anhwe Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : -0.33 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 15
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3
Game History
Round: 15 Purchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 4 carriers, 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters, 11 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Scotland to 112 Sea Zone 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov 3 fighters moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Kazakhstan Combat - British Battle in 112 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 4 carriers, 3 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 7 fighters, 11 submarines and 5 tactical_bombers Germans defend with 7 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 10 fighters, 7 submarines, 4 tactical_bombers and 1 transport British roll dice for 11 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits Units damaged: 6 carriers owned by the Germans British roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 carriers, 3 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 7 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/20 hits, 10.33 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
British regular : -0.00 -
@farmboy Ok. I had to try the naval battle. Subs hit 6x, which I applied to CVs.
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@surfer once I can get back to a computer I’ll be able to respond. Might be a few hours
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@farmboy it will be max D going forward. But this round damage another carrier, than lose both destroyers and the subs.
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@farmboy there are only 8 hits
You have 1 undamaged CV + 7 subs + 2 DD.Do you really want to lose the DDs before the subs?
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Ive been second guessing since I wrote it but since I said it and it’s been a while so I think I should stick with it. The logic was just that without destroyers my air can’t hit your subs so should hit more of your air and surface ships.
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 15
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3
Game History
Round: 15 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany 3 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 111 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Southern France Combat - Americans Air Battle in Western Germany Americans attacks with 4 units heading to Western Germany Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in Western Germany Germans roll AA dice in Western Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Western Germany rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: airfield Bombing raid in Western Germany causes 3 damage total. Battle in 111 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 111 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 111 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Battle in Southern France Americans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Italians defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern France Americans win, taking Southern France from Italians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these Germans owned units to: factory_minor = 6 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 fighter moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 3 fighters moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 5 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 111 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 3 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 5 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 12 carriers, 2 cruisers, 7 destroyers, 8 fighters, 2 infantry, 12 submarines and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 33 Sea Zone 8 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 6 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Queensland to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Malta 1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Egypt 1 marine moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco Place Units - Americans 3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux 1 carrier, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 carrier placed in 101 Sea Zone Americans undo move 2. 1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1 Americans collect 57 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 57 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 77 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 87 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 artillery and 20 infantry moved from Hunan to Anhwe 1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Szechwan Combat - Chinese Battle in Szechwan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan 1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Anhwe Chinese attack with 2 artilleries and 20 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 20 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 5/22 hits, 4.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Anhwe Chinese win, taking Anhwe from Japanese with 2 artilleries and 20 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Shensi 6 infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi Place Units - Chinese 3 infantry placed in Shensi 1 infantry placed in Anhwe Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 4 carriers, 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters, 11 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Scotland to 112 Sea Zone 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov 3 fighters moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Kazakhstan Combat - British Battle in 112 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 4 carriers, 3 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 7 fighters, 11 submarines and 5 tactical_bombers Germans defend with 7 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 10 fighters, 7 submarines, 4 tactical_bombers and 1 transport British roll dice for 11 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits Units damaged: 6 carriers owned by the Germans British roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 carriers, 3 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 7 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/20 hits, 10.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Germans Germans roll dice for 7 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 1.17 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the British Germans roll dice for 7 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 10 fighters, 4 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 9/24 hits, 12.17 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the British and 4 carriers owned by the British lost in 112 Sea Zone 2 destroyers owned by the Germans and 5 submarines owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone British roll dice for 9 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/9 hits, 3.00 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the Germans and 2 carriers owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 7 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 112 Sea Zone, round 3 : 9/20 hits, 10.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 10 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 112 Sea Zone, round 3 : 11/14 hits, 8.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 5 carriers, 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 112 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits 4 destroyers owned by the British, 3 cruisers owned by the British, 4 submarines owned by the British and 4 fighters owned by the British lost in 112 Sea Zone 5 carriers owned by the Germans and 4 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone British roll dice for 5 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Germans and 1 cruiser owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 112 Sea Zone, round 4 : 4/9 hits, 5.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 10 fighters in 112 Sea Zone, round 4 : 9/10 hits, 6.67 expected hits 5 tactical_bombers owned by the British, 1 bomber owned by the British and 3 fighters owned by the British lost in 112 Sea Zone 4 fighters owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone Germans and British reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is -34 Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 4 carriers, 3 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 7 fighters, 6 submarines and 5 tactical_bombers Casualties for Germans: 7 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 7 submarines, 4 tactical_bombers and 1 transport Battle in Rostov British attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Rostov, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov British win, taking Rostov from Italians with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Kazakhstan British attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kazakhstan 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Kazakhstan British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry 6 fighters owned by the Germans forced to land in Western Germany Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus 2 fighters moved from Rostov to 98 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 27 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Northwest Persia 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Persia 2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Persia 4 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Caucasus 1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia Place Units - British 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 98 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 45 PUs Objective British 2 Southern Europe Beach Head: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 48 PUs Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 81 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 71 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.67 Americans regular : 0.50 Japanese regular : -0.33 Italians regular : -0.67 Germans AA : -0.17 Germans regular : 4.17 British regular : -0.83 -
@farmboy Well, it worked out for you. It was a close run thing. I had eliminated your fleet and had many subs left. I was going to retreat, but your final hit round with your fighters was 9 of 10 hits! Enough to take down my entire air force!
Something I’ve never considered, but shouldn’t a “stalemate” condition result in the attacker having an option of retreating? There are defending units alive in the region…
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@surfer said in BM Surfer (L+15) vs Farmboy (X):
@farmboy Well, it worked out for you. It was a close run thing. I had eliminated your fleet and had many subs left. I was going to retreat, but your final hit round with your fighters was 9 of 10 hits! Enough to take down my entire air force!
Something I’ve never considered, but shouldn’t a “stalemate” condition result in the attacker having an option of retreating? There are defending units alive in the region…
Definitely you would have had an option of retreating. But I guess you can’t retreat only a portion of your force. If you could withdraw just surface fleet and air, your subs could have dealt with the rest of my fleet.
And I was lucky with that last roll, but I still wonder if I made the right choice with the destroyers. It was a gamble and a bit impulsive, and I wanted to see how it played out. I think it worked in that you have 5 subs left that would other wise have been casualties before your air which might have changed the final outcome, but then you got some free hits with them too.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 15
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3
Game History
Round: 15 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 3 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 bomber moved from France to Southern France 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Southern France Combat - Italians Battle in Southern France Italians attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern France, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Southern France Italians win, taking Southern France from Americans with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to Southern Italy 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Albania to Greece 8 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone Place Units - Italians 1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 16 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0.67 Italians regular : 0.33
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