• Hey there,

    maybe you followed my questions regarding the Russian revolution (here: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/1779566). If so you should be familiar with the situation.

    If not: Below you see a pre-Revolution situation. Austria finished its moves. It wiped out the British troops in Kazakhstan. An easy win, but a huge strategic error.
    The Russian player then tried to trap those troops by provoking the Revolution with a withdrawal from Livonia and the Liberation of Ukraine. It failed, interestingly. So Ukraine stayed contested. Subsequently, the Entente accepted without hesitation the offered armistice and the Austrian army could move out of Russia to fight another day.

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    That said, I would like to know if you would accept the armistice even if Russia succeeded in liberating Ukraine and therefore trapping the Austrian army for good. What say you?


  • @Screamer If you mean the entire Entente surrendering, it all really depends on the state of the rest of the board. From what I can see, this game looks won for the Central Powers, as the stack in Belgium looks just big enough to overwhelm France. The Ottomans haven’t fallen yet according to Romania, as the Ottomans really just need a couple territories to stay a viable threat. British reinforcements really can’t save Russia at this point, as Austro-Hungarian forces are just too powerful to stop in Tatarstan. While I can’t see the Southern Front, I doubt Italy is wiping the floor with Austria.

    Despite the Entente likely lasting several more turns after this one, the end result wouldn’t pan out to the Entente’s advantage. Even without the Armistice, this would almost certainly be a Central Powers Victory.

    Yay


  • @CentralCommando

    Thanks for your answer. But you missed my question, just below the picture:

    “Would you accept the armistice even if Russia succeeded in liberating Ukraine and therefore trapping the Austrian army for good? What say you?”

    To help out a little bit: Germany has a strong army (matched by France’s), Austria, too. But only one which is almost trapped in Russia and therefore in danger loosing all its assets in this situation.


  • @Screamer I already did to an extent, but to answer it directly:

    Even if Russia used its large Moscovian force to liberate Ukraine, it could probably seal it faster then if they just stood in Moscow. First off, forces in Galicia and later Tatarstan could recontest the territory, and the attack would either be halted or expelled by the next turn. If the Russians sent a large amount of units to Ukraine, German forces in Belarus would wreck the now sparse capital territory (the russians wouldn’t be able to continuously produce, as their capital is contested).The Central Powers just have too much of a lead on units for the attack to switch the tides of the war unless a literal miracle happens.

    Not to mention, there are too many Austrian units in Tatarstan to encircle without that encirclement immediately breaking on the Austrian turn. There are not nearly enough Entente units to strongly defend against 30 Infantry, 18 Artillery, and 2 Planes (from what I can see) in every surrounding territory.


  • @CentralCommando
    It seems you missed a critical line in my first post: “The Russian player tried to trap those troops by provoking the Revolution with a withdrawal from Livonia and the Liberation of Ukraine.”

    My question relates to this very special scenario Russia trying to trap the Austrian troops AND provoking the revolution.

    Question is: Would you accept the armistice in these special circumstances described above or not? yay or nay?

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