Kamikazes for Japan, what for Germany???

[Gwlachmai]

Doubt it. You may want to try Third Riech if you want a more in depth game.

[Make_It_Round]

Along these lines, I’ve always thought the game could benefit from a ‘Conscript’ rule. Conscripts are units that cost 2 IPCs each and can be placed on any territory a power controls, in numbers up to the value of that territory. This would represent the ability of nations to draft large masses of poorly-trained soldiers whose main function was to serve as rearguards and cannon fodder.

Cost: 2
Attack: 0 (increases to 1 if paired with Artillery)
Defence: 1
Move: 0 (increases to 1 if paired with non-Conscript land unit)

So, for example, the UK could pay 4 IPCs to drop 2 Conscripts in Egypt at the end of the turn, to help hold the territory.

Conscripts are just buffer units whose main ability is to take a hit for a more expensive unit; the only real advantage in buying them is their flexibility in placement. (If you have older editions of A&A you can use different colours of Infantry to represent Conscripts: brown for the USSR, grey for Germany, mint green for UK, yellow for Japan.)

[fanofbond]

@Make_It_Round:

Along these lines, I’ve always thought the game could benefit from a ‘Conscript’ rule. Conscripts are units that cost 2 IPCs each and can be placed on any territory a power controls, in numbers up to the value of that territory. This would represent the ability of nations to draft large masses of poorly-trained soldiers whose main function was to serve as rearguards and cannon fodder.

Cost: 2
Attack: 0 (increases to 1 if paired with Artillery)
Defence: 1
Move: 0 (increases to 1 if paired with non-Conscript land unit)

So, for example, the UK could pay 4 IPCs to drop 2 Conscripts in Egypt at the end of the turn, to help hold the territory.

Conscripts are just buffer units whose main ability is to take a hit for a more expensive unit; the only real advantage in buying them is their flexibility in placement. (If you have older editions of A&A you can use different colours of Infantry to represent Conscripts: brown for the USSR, grey for Germany, mint green for UK, yellow for Japan.)

i like that idea, but the draw back it would be hard to keep track of which unit is the conscript

[Guest]

I think Germany should get a free industrial complex for every territory they take to reflect the new slave labor gained.

[idk_iam_swiss]

Lol they didnt actually do that. Most joined willingly

[Guest]

@idk_iam_swiss:

Lol they didnt actually do that. Most joined willingly

When you say willingly, you mean they took that other than the other choice of death.

So I guess all the Jews willingly went to the concentration camps.

[Gwlachmai]

It could have been a misleading questionaire…

[idk_iam_swiss]

jews arent a country. Im speaking of countries. and yes quite a few did join without a fight. Like austria.

[leddux]

@Gharen:

Well the original Europe board gave Germany better tank defence which everyone has now and 1 sub free each turn.  Would not be surprised with the free sub a turn thing in this new board.

The better tank defense was actually a typo see the orignal rulebook.
This was confirmed by a “chimp”

Where is the free sub rule for Germany?

[FieldMarshalGames]

The Kamikaze rule is sort of a LAST DITCH hold out attempt for Japan…  that only came into play late in the war.

I think a Germany equivalent would be the Volkssturm divisions?

“The Volkssturm (lit. “folk storm”, “people’s assault”; “People’s” or “National Militia”) was a German national militia of the last months of World War II. It was founded on Adolf Hitler’s orders on October 18, 1944 and conscripted males between the ages of 16 to 60 years who were not already serving in some military unit as part of a German Home Guard.”

Inexpensive INF units that cost 1 IPC but only defend on a 1… or 6 FREE?  Can only be built in Germany and can not move out of German National territory.  A limited number like the Kamikazes

This would be like Kamikazes in that it could come into effect after a certain event like the Western Allies on the Rhine or the Russians in Czechoslovakia?

[finnman]

@FieldMarshalGames:

The Kamikaze rule is sort of a LAST DITCH hold out attempt for Japan…  that only came into play late in the war.

I think a Germany equivalent would be the Volkssturm divisions?

“The Volkssturm (lit. “folk storm”, “people’s assault”; “People’s” or “National Militia”) was a German national militia of the last months of World War II. It was founded on Adolf Hitler’s orders on October 18, 1944 and conscripted males between the ages of 16 to 60 years who were not already serving in some military unit as part of a German Home Guard.”

Inexpensive INF units that cost 1 IPC but only defend on a 1… or 6 FREE?  Can only be built in Germany and can not move out of German National territory.  A limited number like the Kamikazes

This would be like Kamikazes in that it could come into effect after a certain event like the Western Allies on the Rhine or the Russians in Czechoslovakia?

I like this rule it would make a great house rule.
I think some one should come up with advanced national advantages that are more complexed then the ones in revised

[Guest]

Germany at the end of the war had pilots intentionally crashing into bomber planes with the hopes that they could parachute to safety after the crash.

[katfishkris]

yes i have heard that.  and they had a “name”  too. cant remember what though

[Gwlachmai]

Krashenbombergeshieftlich?

[Guest]

@katfishkris:

yes i have heard that.  and they had a “name”  too. cant remember what though

You can read about it here:

http://www.2worldwar2.com/kg200.htm

[Variable]

@Gwlachmai:

Krashenbombergeshieftlich?

And I thought my made up German sounded good!  :mrgreen:

[Bigtiti]

@idk_iam_swiss:

jews arent a country. Im speaking of countries. and yes quite a few did join without a fight. Like austria.

but then you got the case of Denmark…

[Guest]

@Frontovik:

@idk_iam_swiss:

jews arent a country. Im speaking of countries. and yes quite a few did join without a fight. Like austria.

but then you got the case of Denmark…

There is something rotten in Denmark……

[Raeder]

I can only see one thing that would be an equivalent of the japanese Kamikaze special rule thing. Germans should have Wunderwaffen (Wonderweapons), like V2 for example. Just like the Kamikaze were a last ditch defense, the German V2 belong in that category too. Of course Germany would only be able to launch these on certain areas, just like the japanese, and they should come in limited numbers, just like Kamikaze.

I am actually thinking of using this as a house rule, in case it is not in the game (which I’m sure it’s not).

[The Fire Knight]

I don’t think any of these ideas will be in the game (although I would definitely enjoy having them). But if we’re on the subject, I think that the Atomic Bomb should be a research or something. And not just for the U.S. b/c other countries were doing things with nuclear fission as well (I think). But it should be like a special research (expensive or something) so that usually only the U.S. will be able to afford the endeavor. Thoughts?