FYI, it didn’t matter for this game but the US destroyer in SZ 33 isn’t legal. I’m fine with it staying there for now, but for future reference:
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PtV L25 Simon33 (Allies) vs Nikola1975 (Axis +13) game 2
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@simon33 Hm, yes, difficult one. It was bit stupid to forget about that lurking Soviet navy still there.
Scramble all three, yes, let’s see what happens.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 9
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 9 Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to 116 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov Combat - Russians Germans scrambles 3 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 116 Sea Zone Battle in 116 Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 3 tactical_bombers and 5 transports Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 116 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Germans Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 116 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 116 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 3 tactical_bombers and 5 transports in 116 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Russians and 1 destroyer owned by the Russians lost in 116 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 116 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 116 Sea Zone Russians roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 116 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.67 Russians regular : -1.50 -
Assumed that the subs will still fight in the second round and that the Germans will tip the CV in the first one.
OOL now?
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@simon33 I can’t open the savegame, I am getting an error. But I guess you can take the maximum damage approach.
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Does that help?
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Your subs hit and sunk my Cruiser.
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Max D = sink CV, DD and a tac.
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Is the carrier damaged? If not, then sink the carrier and dd.
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No, the sub hit and damaged the CV. Unless you want to take that hit on the subs.
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Yes, you are right. Not knowing how the first round of Russian planes will hit (miss everything), I would have left the subs then.
So, do as you suggested.
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@nikola1975 said in PtV L25 Simon33 (Allies) vs Nikola1975 (Axis +13) game 2:
Yes, you are right. Not knowing how the first round of Russian planes will hit (miss everything), I would have left the subs then.
So, do as you suggested.
Technically, you are allowed to know how that planes rolled before assigning casualties since you had a DD.
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@simon33 Hm. Ok. It’s a bit difficult to understand without seeing what is happening.
In that case, sink the sub in round 1, then in round 2, sink CV and one dd.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 9 Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to 116 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov Combat - Russians Germans scrambles 3 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 116 Sea Zone Battle in 116 Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 3 tactical_bombers and 5 transports Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 116 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Germans Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 116 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 116 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 3 tactical_bombers and 5 transports in 116 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Russians and 1 destroyer owned by the Russians lost in 116 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 116 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 116 Sea Zone Russians roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 116 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 3 tactical_bombers and 5 transports in 116 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians and 3 fighters owned by the Russians lost in 116 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Germans, 1 carrier owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in 116 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 5 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -31 Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for Germans: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 116 Sea Zone: 1 carrier EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 116 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Germans owned units to: carrier = 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in Rostov Russians attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov Russians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Korea Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Korea 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Korea Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Moving scrambled unit from 116 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany Moving scrambled unit from 116 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans forced to land in Western Germany Non Combat Move - Russians 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 marine moved from Finland to Vyborg 2 fighters moved from Rostov to Stalingrad 1 mech_infantry moved from Timguska to Yakut S.S.R. 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Yakut S.S.R. 3 aaGuns, 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters, 43 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Stalingrad to Northern Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Korea to Northern Manchuria Turn Complete - RussiansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 0.67 Germans regular : 2.67 Russians regular : -0.33 -
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You can just go Max D.
I think I’ve made a boo boo there.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 9 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 5 artilleries, 2 fighters, 11 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 submarine moved from 65 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 64 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 50 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 20 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol Japanese take Jehol from Chinese 1 armour moved from Jehol to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Manchuria to Kiangsu 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan Japanese take Hunan from Chinese 1 armour moved from Eastern India to Western India Japanese take Western India from UK_Pacific 1 armour moved from Western India to Eastern India 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Shantung 2 battleships moved from 55 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 8 submarines moved from 55 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 5 destroyers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 5 carriers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Shantung Battle in Kiangsu Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kiangsu, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kiangsu, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kiangsu Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kiangsu, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kiangsu, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kiangsu Japanese win, taking Shantung from Chinese, taking Kiangsu from Chinese with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in 50 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters, 11 submarines and 5 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 battleship, 5 carriers, 2 destroyers, 7 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports; ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser and 2 fighters Japanese roll dice for 11 submarines in 50 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits Units damaged: 3 carriers owned by the Americans Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 50 Sea Zone, round 2 : 10/15 hits, 7.50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 5 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 9 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports in 50 Sea Zone, round 2 : 13/19 hits, 9.17 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese 2 carriers owned by the Japanese and 8 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 50 Sea Zone 2 destroyers owned by the Americans and 5 carriers owned by the Americans lost in 50 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 3 submarines in 50 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 3 carriers, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 50 Sea Zone, round 3 : 7/15 hits, 7.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 50 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/10 hits, 6.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 transports in 50 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese, 1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 50 Sea Zone 1 cruiser owned by the ANZAC, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans and 5 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 50 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 50 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 4 destroyers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 50 Sea Zone, round 4 : 5/12 hits, 6.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 4 fighters in 50 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 transports in 50 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 50 Sea Zone 2 fighters owned by the ANZAC, 2 fighters owned by the Americans and 1 battleship owned by the Americans lost in 50 Sea Zone 2 transports owned by the Americans lost in 50 Sea Zone Japanese win with 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 3 destroyers, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 77 Casualties for Japanese: 3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 11 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 5 carriers, 2 destroyers, 7 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser and 2 fighters Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 tactical_bomber moved from 50 Sea Zone to New Guinea 1 marine moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Shan State to 39 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 artillery moved from Burma to Eastern India 4 infantry moved from 40 Sea Zone to Eastern India 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 132 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 40 Sea Zone to Eastern India 1 carrier moved from 132 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Kiangsu to 20 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Southern Manchuria 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Southern Manchuria 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Japan to French Indo China 2 artilleries moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from Fukien to Kwangtung 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Fukien to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 artillery and 2 fighters placed in Eastern India 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Malaya 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Southern Manchuria 6 infantry placed in Japan 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -1.00 Americans regular : 2.83 Japanese regular : -2.17 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 9
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 9 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 armour, 2 carriers, 3 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from British Guiana to 90 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 90 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone Combat - AmericansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Scramble to Gibraltar?
Intercept in W Germany? -
Yes, scramble 2 fighters (ITA and GER) to Gibraltar.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Chinese round 9
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 9 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Jehol Chinese take Jehol from Japanese 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsu 1 fighter moved from Tsinghai to Kiangsu 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shantung 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shantung 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma Chinese take Burma from Japanese Combat - ChineseCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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