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TGC vs ManuC23 - Classic, Restricted Attack, no bid
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@The_Good_Captain just look on the internet, because I don’t remember anything about the rules, I seem to remember something that the AI always made the shortest route, which should not be, if there is danger of attack to your units, I think that regardless of what a rule says, which are not precisely to be fulfilled in the game but for the players to recognize it or not, because the will of the players is what establishes the effective rules in the game, I think that whenever there is another way to carry out an attack, other than the one that leads to your death, by logic it must be taken and the rule would be fulfilled when there is no other option, the law of the parts must be that and partially leave without effect this illogical rule of forcing to make an attack by the shortest route being the most dangerous.
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@ManuC23 What bothers me is that I usually count steps 3 and one of refueling and then the planes go where the enemy is, as if saying kill me and they died, and that’s how the game dies when things like that are not eliminated, I think that for valid games, you who are in this should review this and look for ways more adjusted to human logic and not to the possibility of a programmer 20 years ago.
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@ManuC23 just redo your Japanese turn and move the planes one space at a time, ya?
The programming is just programming. Just move the planes territory by territory and you’re golden.
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@The_Good_Captain said in TGC vs ManuC23 - Classic, Restricted Attack, no bid:
@ManuC23 you need to move the planes one space at a time.
China
Manchuria
YakutMove them just like you would on the real board.
Go ahead and redo the turn from UK8.
One step and the second to attack, ok, I go
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@ManuC23 Okay, sorry for not knowing these rules, but it’s good to know that the game gives you ways to do things so you don’t have to let the AI make these decisions. You can see how expensive that is.
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Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from Novosibirsk to India 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Kazakh S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Kazakh S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Kazakh S.S.R. Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in India Bombing raid in India rolls: 2 and costs: 2 PUs. Bombing raid costs 2 PUs Battle in Kazakh S.S.R. Americans attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakh S.S.R. Americans win, taking Kazakh S.S.R. from Japanese with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to North Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from North Sea Zone to West Spain Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from West US to Karelia S.S.R. 1 bomber moved from India to Karelia S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. 6 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Russia 8 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R. 5 transports moved from North Sea Zone to East Canada Sea Zone 10 infantry moved from West Canada to East Canada Sea Zone 10 infantry and 5 transports moved from East Canada Sea Zone to North Sea Zone 10 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to Finland Norway 1 armour and 5 infantry moved from West US to West Canada Place Units - Americans 10 infantry placed in West US Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 32 PUs; end with 37 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -1.33 Japanese regular : -0.67 -
Game History
Round: 9 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Yakut S.S.R. Combat - Russians Battle in Yakut S.S.R. Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R. Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter owned by the Russians retreated Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. 1 aaGun moved from Russia to Caucasus 1 aaGun moved from Novosibirsk to Russia 21 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Russia 1 fighter moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. 10 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia 3 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia 3 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 23 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : -0.33 Germans regular : 1.00 Russians regular : -3.83 -
@ManuC23 hold on that turn i need to make a noncombat move edit
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Game History
Round: 9 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Yakut S.S.R. Combat - Russians Battle in Yakut S.S.R. Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R. Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter owned by the Russians retreated Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. 1 aaGun moved from Russia to Caucasus 1 aaGun moved from Novosibirsk to Russia 21 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Russia 1 fighter moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. 10 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia 3 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia 3 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 23 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : -0.33 Germans regular : 1.00 Russians regular : -3.83R9 ncm edit.tsvg okay, there we go. your turn.
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@The_Good_Captain I had very good luck, I’ve only played one game of Revised and I had to play with another newbie, lol
Everything seems to indicate that he is one of the strongest players in this variant of the game, there are more than 30 registered players, you should participate even if you don’t know this variant, you learn it along the way
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Game History
Round: 9 Purchase Units - British British buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from Syria Jordan to India 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Persia 1 fighter moved from Syria Jordan to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from Syria Jordan to Persia Combat - British Strategic bombing raid in India Bombing raid in India rolls: 2 and costs: 2 PUs. Bombing raid costs 2 PUs Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. British attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter owned by the British retreated Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Persia British attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Persia 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Persia British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus 2 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R. 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to Finland Norway 4 transports moved from West Spain Sea Zone to North Sea Zone 7 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone 7 infantry and 4 transports moved from North Sea Zone to West Spain Sea Zone 7 infantry moved from West Spain Sea Zone to Algeria 8 infantry moved from Algeria to French Equatorial Africa 4 infantry moved from Congo to Anglo Sudan Egypt 8 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Sudan Egypt 3 infantry moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to Syria Jordan 1 bomber moved from India to Syria Jordan 1 fighter moved from Persia to Karelia S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Persia to Syria Jordan Place Units - British 9 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 27 PUs; end with 28 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 0.67 Germans regular : 0.67 British regular : -0.83 -
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@The_Good_Captain The Russians are getting fat in their trenches, while the English and Americans pay for in exchanges and the allied snowball keeps growing, although I was remembering things during the game, I always kept the same pattern of prioritizing the main thing, to the accessory, if Japan is entertained in Africa it would already be dead, but even accumulating all the troops to enter Russia is not enough, when the allies act as a single whole and position themselves correctly, I tried to avoid any dispersion of troops and left a lot of ICP that I could have a while ago on the way so that each unit is at the front, I think we have to change the strategy, at least so that the war does not end before 1945 and extend things a little more, well sorry for the delay in responding as I am preparing for the Revised tournament, which I never played and I am already getting the hang of the game.
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Game History
Round: 9 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Russia to Novosibirsk 3 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Kazakh S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Novosibirsk 2 bombers moved from Karelia S.S.R. to India Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in India Bombing raid in India rolls: 5,4 and costs: 9 PUs. Bombing raid costs 9 PUs Battle in Novosibirsk Americans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Novosibirsk 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Novosibirsk Americans win, taking Novosibirsk from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Kazakh S.S.R. Americans attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry Japanese defend with 2 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Kazakh S.S.R. Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Kazakh S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakh S.S.R. Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Kazakh S.S.R. 1 fighter owned by the Americans retreated Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Americans: 3 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Karelia S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Russia to Evenki National Okrug 2 bombers moved from India to Karelia S.S.R. 10 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R. 5 transports moved from North Sea Zone to East Canada Sea Zone 1 armour and 8 infantry moved from West Canada to East Canada Sea Zone 1 armour, 8 infantry and 5 transports moved from East Canada Sea Zone to North Sea Zone 1 armour and 8 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to Finland Norway 8 infantry moved from West US to West Canada 2 infantry moved from West US to Mexico 2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia 2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia Place Units - Americans 12 infantry placed in West US Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 31 PUs; end with 32 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : 2.00 -
Game History
Round: 10 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 armour and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 44 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R. 2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - Russians Battle in Kazakh S.S.R. Russians attack with 44 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 44 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 9/44 hits, 7.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakh S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakh S.S.R. Russians win, taking Kazakh S.S.R. from Japanese with 44 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia S.S.R. 2 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R. 1 aaGun moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R. 1 aaGun moved from Caucasus to Russia 5 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus Place Units - Russians 1 armour and 6 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R. Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -0.33 Russians regular : 1.33 -
@The_Good_Captain G10.tsvg …The truth is, I’m confused about the rules and the industrial provinces don’t require ICP for production and in the classic game the damage goes directly to your accumulated ICP, and I don’t remember anything about that, and the fighters don’t do anything either. That’s why I needed a practice game, more than anything for the rules.
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Game History
Round: 10 Purchase Units - British British buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Persia 1 bomber moved from Syria Jordan to India 1 fighter moved from Syria Jordan to Persia 2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Persia Combat - British Strategic bombing raid in India Bombing raid in India rolls: 6 and costs: 6 PUs. Bombing raid costs 6 PUs Battle in Persia British attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Persia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Persia British win, taking Persia from Japanese with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to Kenya-Rhodesia 8 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Sudan Egypt 10 infantry moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to Syria Jordan 7 infantry moved from Algeria to French Equatorial Africa 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to Finland Norway 2 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia 2 fighters moved from Persia to Karelia S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Persia to Syria Jordan 1 bomber moved from India to Syria Jordan 4 transports moved from West Spain Sea Zone to North Sea Zone 7 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone 7 infantry and 4 transports moved from North Sea Zone to West Spain Sea Zone 7 infantry moved from West Spain Sea Zone to Algeria 1 fighter moved from Syria Jordan to Anglo Sudan Egypt 1 armour moved from Syria Jordan to Anglo Sudan Egypt Place Units - British 9 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 25 PUs; end with 26 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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