L25 PTV Stucifer (X+11) vs Axis-Dominion (L)

[axis-dominion]

cal lit a draw then? since i could’ve easily won earlier but gave you a second chance, and you’re unwilling to return the favor… so we just call it good? which is too bad as it’s a very good game

[Stucifer]

I’d definitely be up for compromising a bit on the dice here, I am going to load up LL and see what it looks like for that battle, I think we could edit some German units away if that keeps you piqued

[Stucifer]

Gotta post this to dice tales though for your personal hall of fame :)

[axis-dominion]

@Stucifer said in L25 PTV Stucifer (X+11) vs Axis-Dominion (L):

Gotta post this to dice tales though for your personal hall of fame :)

yeah it’s been happening to me a lot actually, it’s really tiring… i work hard on the game with strategy and positioning, and then someone (usually much lower ranked but with good skill) will take a big swing and get super lucky. it’s getitng stupid

[Stucifer]

This is low luck (all dice incl AAA) looks like

[axis-dominion]

i’m not sure why that’s very different from the avg tuv in regular dice battle calc… is the bc buggy for some reason?

[Stucifer]

I was also keen on the AUR-A stat [my nickname for “Avg Units Remaining - Attacker”]

in the regular dice it shoots up to 17, and obviosuly I got above average on that as well

[Stucifer]

@axis-dominion said in L25 PTV Stucifer (X+11) vs Axis-Dominion (L):

i’m not sure why that’s very different from the avg tuv in regular dice battle calc… is the bc buggy for some reason?

I believe the edge cases heavily skew the average #s here, as a few sims with brutal AAA dice will throw it super negative

[axis-dominion]

you mean average tuv? not units remaining

[Stucifer]

I look much more closely at the units remaining and manually calculate TUV swing based on that, actually- the average can be heavily obfuscated by edge data

[axis-dominion]

@Stucifer said in L25 PTV Stucifer (X+11) vs Axis-Dominion (L):

I look much more closely at the units remaining and manually calculate TUV swing based on that, actually- the average can be heavily obfuscated by edge data

i look at that as well, but still doesn’t change that this was an absurd result… and combat hit differential of -20.67 ??? don’t ever recall seeing it that bad wow

[Stucifer]

Any 50/50 battle is going to be very off the average TUV; for example if I went to the bitter end and you had 10 units remaining (avg units remaining - defender was 15) it would be about a -140 swing

[axis-dominion]

ok so what are you willing to return in favor, anything??

[Stucifer]

How about we go with the AUR-A, edit down to 5 tanks and the 12 planes that lived?

[Stucifer]

bad ss, bounced between 17 and 18 AURA

[axis-dominion]

ok that’s reasonable at least. thank you. keeps the game alive and your debt is paid :)

[Stucifer]

@axis-dominion go ahead and edit when you take Russia’s turn :)

[axis-dominion]

thanks. and i will refrain from counter attacking your remaining 5 tanks, for that returned favor. sound good?

[axis-dominion]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 12

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 12

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 12 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        COMMENT: screw it, LETS GO
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland
        4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from France to Eastern Poland
        8 armour, 13 artilleries, 36 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
        2 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
        6 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Eastern Poland

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Eastern Poland
            Germans attack with 8 armour, 19 artilleries, 9 fighters, 49 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber; Russians defend with 4 aaGuns, 9 armour, 17 artilleries, 48 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys
                Russians roll AA dice in Eastern Poland : 2/12 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 19 artilleries, 7 fighters, 49 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 30/95 hits, 30.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 4 aaGuns, 9 armour, 17 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 48 infantry, 8 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 25/87 hits, 32.83 expected hits
                25 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                25 infantry owned by the Russians, 4 aaGuns owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Eastern Poland
                Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 19 artilleries, 7 fighters, 24 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers in Eastern Poland, round 3 : 23/70 hits, 26.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 9 armour, 17 artilleries, 3 fighters, 23 infantry, 8 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Eastern Poland, round 3 : 20/61 hits, 24.33 expected hits
                20 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                23 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland
                Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 19 artilleries, 7 fighters, 4 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers in Eastern Poland, round 4 : 19/50 hits, 20.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 9 armour, 17 artilleries, 3 fighters, 8 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Eastern Poland, round 4 : 11/38 hits, 16.67 expected hits
                7 artilleries owned by the Germans and 4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians and 17 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland
                Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 12 artilleries, 7 fighters, 7 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers in Eastern Poland, round 5 : 15/39 hits, 17.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 9 armour, 3 fighters, 6 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Eastern Poland, round 5 : 9/19 hits, 10.00 expected hits
                9 artilleries owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                6 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians and 9 armour owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland
                Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 fighters, 7 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers in Eastern Poland, round 6 : 14/30 hits, 14.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Eastern Poland, round 6 : 1/4 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans and 3 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Eastern Poland
            Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 8 armour, 2 artilleries, 7 fighters, 7 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 143
            Casualties for Germans: 17 artilleries, 2 fighters and 49 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 4 aaGuns, 9 armour, 17 artilleries, 48 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
        Battle in Leningrad
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Leningrad
            Germans win, taking Leningrad from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
        2 infantry moved from Archangel to Leningrad
        1 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria
        1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        2 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 128 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 128 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 infantry moved from Germany to Austria
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Western Germany
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Austria
        4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        4 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        1 armour moved from Western Germany to France
        2 fighters moved from 100 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 100 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Trans-Jordan
        1 cruiser moved from 83 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark

    Place Units - Germans
        1 artillery, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France
        3 infantry placed in Norway

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,6,4,1,4,5
        Germans collect 45 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 45 PUs
        Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern Poland: 3 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern Poland: 6 mech_infantrys
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Eastern Poland: 1 artillery
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -20.67
Germans regular : -7.50
Russians AA : 0.00

Savegame

[axis-dominion]

here’s what it looks like. any other noncom with this edit, or g2g ?