L25 PTV ArtofWar (X+10) v Stucifer (L)

  • 2025 2024 '23

    TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 19

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 19
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 bombers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            2 battleships, 5 carriers, 1 cruiser, 11 destroyers, 8 fighters, 8 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 132 Sea Zone from Japanese
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 38 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 20 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 22 Sea Zone from Japanese
                  Americans take 20 Sea Zone from Japanese
                  Americans take 7 Sea Zone from Japanese
            1 destroyer moved from 21 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 20 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            3 destroyers moved from 32 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 18 Sea Zone from Japanese
            4 infantry moved from Wake Island to 32 Sea Zone
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 32 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Kyushu
            1 marine moved from Okinawa to 20 Sea Zone
            1 marine and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 7 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 7 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to France
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 7 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Americans creates battle in territory 21 Sea Zone
            Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 6
            Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 4
            Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 5
            Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 6
            Strategic bombing raid in France
                    Germans roll AA dice in France : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Bombing raid in France rolls: 4 and causes: 4 damage to unit: factory_minor
                Bombing raid in France causes 4 damage total. 
            Battle in Kyushu
            Battle in Iwo Jima
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans win, taking 21 Sea Zone from Japanese, taking Kyushu from Japanese, taking Iwo Jima from Japanese, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Battle in 38 Sea Zone
                EDIT: Americans attack with 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 1 cruiser, 11 destroyers, 13 fighters, 8 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
                EDIT: Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 8 carriers, 3 cruisers, 9 destroyers, 8 fighters, 14 submarines and 6 transports
                    EDIT: 1/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    EDIT: 11/30 hits, 14.00 expected hits
                EDIT: Units damaged: 8 carriers owned by the Japanese and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                    EDIT: 2/14 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                EDIT: Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Americans
                    EDIT: 12/29 hits, 11.83 expected hits
                EDIT: Units damaged: 5 carriers owned by the Americans
                EDIT: 2 submarines owned by the Americans and 5 carriers owned by the Americans lost in 38 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 3 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                    EDIT: 0/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    EDIT: 16/30 hits, 14.00 expected hits
                    EDIT: 4/11 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    EDIT: 16/29 hits, 11.83 expected hits
                EDIT: 6 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 cruiser owned by the Americans, 11 destroyers owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 38 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 5 destroyers owned by the Japanese and 11 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                    EDIT: 9/16 hits, 8.83 expected hits
                    EDIT: 9/24 hits, 10.17 expected hits
                EDIT: 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans and 8 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 38 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 8 carriers owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                    EDIT: 3/7 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                    EDIT: 8/15 hits, 8.50 expected hits
                    EDIT: 6/7 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                    EDIT: 10/15 hits, 8.50 expected hits
                    EDIT: 2/7 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                    EDIT: 11/15 hits, 8.50 expected hits
                EDIT: 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans, 3 fighters owned by the Americans and 2 battleships owned by the Americans lost in 38 Sea Zone
                EDIT: Japanese win
                EDIT: Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is -163
            EDIT: Recording Battle Statistics
                EDIT: 8 fighters owned by the Japanese forced to land in Malaya
            EDIT: Game Loaded
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 43 Sea Zone: 2 battleships
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Americans owned units to: battleship = 1, battleship = 1
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Java: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Sumatra: 2 tactical_bombers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            COMMENT: 2 tacs came from sz 36 and must land on Sumatra or in 43.
            COMMENT: 2 ftr 1 tac came from FIC and can land on Java
            COMMENT: won't let me move the carriers in sz 20
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 38 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to Java
            3 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 20 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 3 carriers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 20 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 32 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 32 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Wake Island to 32 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Kyushu
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Wake Island
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to 113 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from France to United Kingdom
            1 marine moved from Davao to Manilla
            1 aaGun moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 22 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Kyushu
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone
            2 bombers and 2 fighters placed in Eastern United States
            3 transports placed in 11 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 infantry placed in French Indo China
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 98 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0.33
    Germans AA : -0.17
    Germans regular : -0.33
    EDIT: : 2.50
    

    Savegame

  • 2025 2024 '23

    Apologies for the mess there at the end of the combat. Please review and double check my work before I continue with China/UK


  • @Stucifer

    I not sure why there is a third Tac on Java.

    You are proposing that we disregard the underperformance of the US in the last round.

    Dice were rolled. and should be honored.


  • @ArtofWar1947 said in L25 PTV ArtofWar (X+10) v Stucifer (L):

    @Stucifer

    I not sure why there is a third Tac on Java.

    You are proposing that we disregard the underperformance of the US in the last round.

    Dice were rolled. and should be honored.

    Ok on the tac, I made a mistake there and thought I had 2 fig/3tac remaining the final round but it was 3/2 which is better for me since the fighters had more movement

    On the Dice, as explained above it did not give me the option to retreat with Edit mode enabled. I did not know this was an issue with this client version. So I couldn’t retreat. That’s why I posted as soon as dice for that round automatically rolled

  • 2025 2024 '23

    If I can’t reproduce the bug tomorrow I will let you know. When I tried with my home PC (which I think has a different version of 2.6 installed) I didn’t have the same issue. (Using live dice battle tests in edit mode using a game I have set up over in the #play-boardgames forum)


  • @Stucifer

    Note also that the retreat of the wounded battleships to 43 is illegal, as no US ships moved through the zone during the CM.

  • 2025 2024 '23

    Curious if you load up the game and play Local does it do the same thing for you with not allowing the retreat? The save file I had for before round 3 continues to reproduce the bug. Using 2.6.14748.

    As for the retreat, the ships could clearly move through either 132 or 43 get to 38. I personally would not nitpick an opponent for not micro-managing the movement in TripleA when all the routes are clear.


  • @Stucifer

    I do not know how to use the edit function to conduct naval battles.

    I forgot to take Sumatra on J19 so that the Ally planes in Indo-China could not attack the fleet in 38–a costly mistake with which I have to live. You forgot to cover your retreat route to 43; I cannot afford to be generous.


  • Don’t need to do anything special, just load the save and click through without selecting casualties and see if it gives you the option to retreat or if it skips directly to the next round. I am curious if you have the same issue. Here is a video recording of the bug https://youtube.com/shorts/NwkVJk__998

    The Allied planes in FIC are on an air base and could land in Java, Shan State, Siam, Burma as well for what it’s worth.

    However for the sake of continuing the game I’ll edit away all the remaining US units from the battle and let you pick 3 casualties.


  • @Stucifer

    3 DDs

  • 2025 2024 '23

    TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 19

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 19
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
            Chinese buy 2 artilleries and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Sumatra: 2 tactical_bombers
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Java: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 43 Sea Zone: 2 battleships
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 38 Sea Zone: 3 destroyers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Fukien
                  Chinese take Fukien from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Southern Manchuria
                  Chinese take Southern Manchuria from Japanese
    
        Combat - Chinese
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            19 artilleries, 1 fighter and 28 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Chahar to Jehol
            1 artillery moved from Shantung to Jehol
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Jehol
            1 infantry placed in Hunan
            1 infantry placed in Hunan
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 28 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame

  • 2025 2024 '23

    TripleA Move Summary: British round 19

    TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 19
    
        Combat Move - British
            2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
            2 infantry moved from Iraq to Southern Persia
            4 fighters moved from Iraq to Southern Persia
            1 armour moved from Iraq to Syria
                  British take Syria from Italians
            1 armour moved from Syria to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from Eastern India to Southern Persia
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            3 submarines moved from 36 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
    

    Savegame

  • 2025 2024 '23

    Scramble in Holland?


  • @Stucifer

    No scramble.

  • 2025 2024 '23

    TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 19

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 19
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 bombers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            2 battleships, 5 carriers, 1 cruiser, 11 destroyers, 8 fighters, 8 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 132 Sea Zone from Japanese
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 38 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 20 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 22 Sea Zone from Japanese
                  Americans take 20 Sea Zone from Japanese
                  Americans take 7 Sea Zone from Japanese
            1 destroyer moved from 21 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 20 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            3 destroyers moved from 32 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 18 Sea Zone from Japanese
            4 infantry moved from Wake Island to 32 Sea Zone
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 32 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Kyushu
            1 marine moved from Okinawa to 20 Sea Zone
            1 marine and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 7 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 7 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to France
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 7 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Americans creates battle in territory 21 Sea Zone
            Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 6
            Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 4
            Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 5
            Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits.  Rolls: 6
            Strategic bombing raid in France
                    Germans roll AA dice in France : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Bombing raid in France rolls: 4 and causes: 4 damage to unit: factory_minor
                Bombing raid in France causes 4 damage total. 
            Battle in Kyushu
            Battle in Iwo Jima
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans win, taking 21 Sea Zone from Japanese, taking Kyushu from Japanese, taking Iwo Jima from Japanese, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Battle in 38 Sea Zone
                EDIT: Americans attack with 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 1 cruiser, 11 destroyers, 13 fighters, 8 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
                EDIT: Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 8 carriers, 3 cruisers, 9 destroyers, 8 fighters, 14 submarines and 6 transports
                    EDIT: 1/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    EDIT: 11/30 hits, 14.00 expected hits
                EDIT: Units damaged: 8 carriers owned by the Japanese and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                    EDIT: 2/14 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                EDIT: Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Americans
                    EDIT: 12/29 hits, 11.83 expected hits
                EDIT: Units damaged: 5 carriers owned by the Americans
                EDIT: 2 submarines owned by the Americans and 5 carriers owned by the Americans lost in 38 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 3 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                    EDIT: 0/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    EDIT: 16/30 hits, 14.00 expected hits
                    EDIT: 4/11 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    EDIT: 16/29 hits, 11.83 expected hits
                EDIT: 6 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 cruiser owned by the Americans, 11 destroyers owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 38 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 5 destroyers owned by the Japanese and 11 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                    EDIT: 9/16 hits, 8.83 expected hits
                    EDIT: 9/24 hits, 10.17 expected hits
                EDIT: 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans and 8 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 38 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 8 carriers owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                    EDIT: 3/7 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                    EDIT: 8/15 hits, 8.50 expected hits
                    EDIT: 6/7 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                    EDIT: 10/15 hits, 8.50 expected hits
                    EDIT: 2/7 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                    EDIT: 11/15 hits, 8.50 expected hits
                EDIT: 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans, 3 fighters owned by the Americans and 2 battleships owned by the Americans lost in 38 Sea Zone
                EDIT: Japanese win
                EDIT: Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is -163
            EDIT: Recording Battle Statistics
                EDIT: 8 fighters owned by the Japanese forced to land in Malaya
            EDIT: Game Loaded
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 43 Sea Zone: 2 battleships
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Americans owned units to: battleship = 1, battleship = 1
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Java: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Sumatra: 2 tactical_bombers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            COMMENT: 2 tacs came from sz 36 and must land on Sumatra or in 43.
            COMMENT: 2 ftr 1 tac came from FIC and can land on Java
            COMMENT: won't let me move the carriers in sz 20
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 38 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to Java
            3 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 20 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 3 carriers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 20 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 32 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 32 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Wake Island to 32 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Kyushu
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Wake Island
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to 113 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from France to United Kingdom
            1 marine moved from Davao to Manilla
            1 aaGun moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 22 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 7 Sea Zone to Kyushu
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer placed in 104 Sea Zone
            2 bombers and 2 fighters placed in Eastern United States
            3 transports placed in 11 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 infantry placed in French Indo China
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 98 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
            Chinese buy 2 artilleries and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Sumatra: 2 tactical_bombers
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Java: 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 43 Sea Zone: 2 battleships
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 38 Sea Zone: 3 destroyers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Fukien
                  Chinese take Fukien from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Southern Manchuria
                  Chinese take Southern Manchuria from Japanese
    
        Combat - Chinese
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            19 artilleries, 1 fighter and 28 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Chahar to Jehol
            1 artillery moved from Shantung to Jehol
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Jehol
            1 infantry placed in Hunan
            1 infantry placed in Hunan
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 28 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
            2 infantry moved from Iraq to Southern Persia
            4 fighters moved from Iraq to Southern Persia
            1 armour moved from Iraq to Syria
                  British take Syria from Italians
            1 armour moved from Syria to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from Eastern India to Southern Persia
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            3 submarines moved from 36 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                British attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in 38 Sea Zone
                British attack with 3 fighters, 3 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers
                Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 3 cruisers and 6 transports
                    British roll dice for 3 submarines in 38 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 38 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 cruisers and 6 transports in 38 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    2 submarines owned by the British lost in 38 Sea Zone
                    3 cruisers owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                    British roll dice for 1 submarine in 38 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 38 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 6 transports in 38 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 transports owned by the Japanese and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                    4 transports owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                British win, taking 38 Sea Zone from Japanese with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 75
                Casualties for British: 2 submarines
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 battleship, 3 cruisers and 6 transports
            Battle in Southern Persia
                British attack with 5 fighters and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
                    British roll dice for 5 fighters and 2 infantry in Southern Persia, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Southern Persia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Southern Persia
                    2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern Persia
                British win, taking Southern Persia from Italians with 5 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            COMMENT: 2 UK inf on US transport in 113
            5 fighters moved from Southern Persia to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Eastern India to Central India
            1 infantry moved from Eastern India to Western India
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 38 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            3 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from French Indo China to Eastern India
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 73 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Rhodesia
            3 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
            2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - British
            1 armour and 2 artilleries placed in Iraq
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 transport placed in 113 Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 100 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3,4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 82 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1,6,2,5,5,2,2,5,5
            British collect 33 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 33 PUs
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs
    
        Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 15 PUs; end with 16 PUs
            Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0.33
    Italians regular : 0.33
    Japanese regular : -0.83
    Germans AA : -0.17
    Germans regular : -0.67
    EDIT: : 2.50
    British regular : -1.67
    

    Savegame


  • @Stucifer

    41780-ITA-19.tsvg

    You are correct about a couple of things: (a) I probably should save one or two CVs in the battle for SZ 38 (but did not even consider a follow-up attack) and (b) taking Sumatra would not have prevented the US aircraft from FIC attacking 38. What it would have prevented is the 2 fighter from SZ 20 joining the attack because there would have been only 10 landing spots on the 5 US CVs. This ( think) changed the US odds of winning from less than 50% to about 75%. Apparently, I forgot about these two fighters when I did my final combat calculation; a bad mistake.

    Game History

    Round: 19
    
        Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 2 destroyers and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour moved from Baltic States to Romania
                  Germans take Romania from Russians
            3 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Bulgaria
            1 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Southern Persia
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to 100 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Persia
            1 fighter moved from Alexandria to Southern Persia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 82 Sea Zone to Southern Persia
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Trans-Jordan to Southern Persia
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
                  Italians take Syria from British
            1 armour moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
                  Italians take Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from British
    
        Combat - Italians
            Battle in Southern Persia
                Italians attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser in Southern Persia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Southern Persia, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.83 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Persia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Southern Persia
                Italians win, taking Southern Persia from British with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Bulgaria
                Italians attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bulgaria, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Bulgaria
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bulgaria
                    Italians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bulgaria, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bulgaria, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Bulgaria
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bulgaria
                Italians win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bulgaria to Northern Italy
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 artillery moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Morocco
            1 mech_infantry moved from Baltic States to Romania
            1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 100 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 82 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern Persia to 82 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Persia to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Persia to Trans-Jordan
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 82 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Italians
            1 destroyer placed in 83 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 99 Sea Zone
            1 airfield placed in Egypt
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Egypt
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
    
        Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 30 PUs
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 32 PUs
            Objective Italians 3 North Africa Control: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUs
            Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 45 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Italians regular : -2.33
    Russians regular : 2.00
    British regular : -0.33
    

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