L25 PTV Stucifer (X+12) vs peirce (L)

[Stucifer]

You know, it’s quite rude to be offered an edit and use it to exploit someone. Some might even say, devilish.

Good thing I’m used to such ill-mannered behavior 😈😈

[Stucifer]

TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 5

TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
              Germans take Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
              Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians
        1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Northern Belarus
        2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
        1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
              Germans take Leningrad from Russians
        1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 126 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to 117 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
        1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad

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[Stucifer]

Scramble 112 and fight or submerge with sub?

[peirce]

@Stucifer Lol, I’d rather have the bomber dead and the fighters in Sydney - happy to offer that alternative… :)

[peirce]

@Stucifer No scramble, and sub submerges.

[Stucifer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
              Germans take Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
              Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians
        1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Northern Belarus
        2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
        1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
              Germans take Leningrad from Russians
        1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 126 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to 117 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
        1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Northern Belarus
            Germans attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 10 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 10 infantry in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 3/13 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians lost in Northern Belarus
            Germans win, taking Northern Belarus from Russians with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
            Casualties for Russians: 1 tactical_bomber
        Battle in 112 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            1 submarine owned by the British submerged
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 112 Sea Zone
            Germans win, taking 112 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
        Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Leningrad: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Leningrad
        Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Ukraine: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Ukraine

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Trigger Leningrad Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Leningrad_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans
        Trigger Ukraine Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Ukraine_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans
        1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 aaGun moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
        1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
        1 aaGun moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece
        1 fighter moved from Poland to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
        1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Leningrad
        1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Leningrad
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Leningrad
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
        6 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
        8 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 infantry moved from Karelia to Vyborg
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece

    Place Units - Germans
        1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 factory_minor placed in Greece
        2 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Germany
        Germans undo move 1.
        1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 101 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,5
        Germans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs
        Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 59 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.50
Germans regular : -1.50
British regular : -0.33

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[Stucifer]

@peirce said in L25 PTV Stucifer (X+12) vs peirce (L):

@Stucifer Lol, I’d rather have the bomber dead and the fighters in Sydney - happy to offer that alternative… :)

I was tempted to let it lie, but I felt that:

A) you would have made the transport-killing move in the first place if you had seen it;
B) integrity of the game being accurate to the rules so we both are satisfied with the outcome win or lose

Certainly wouldn’t want there to be another situation where I was owed a scramble and it was a much bigger retcon/game changing decision

[Stucifer]

To point A, if you had seen it before you moved, I am curious why you didn’t do that in the first place

[Stucifer]

wish we could edit our posts here, but I understand why we can’t…

I meant to say before the Edit of NCM

[peirce]

@Stucifer Understood re both points - better for us to just use the rules as they are. As to why I didn’t do that in the first place, it’s because I’d rather have the 2x fighters in Sydney (with the bomber dead) than the 4 transports dead but losing an extra DD. It was close, but I’d rather be certain that Anzac can defend itself for the foreseeable future than eliminate the transports closer to home.

[peirce]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 14 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 armour moved from Bryansk to Southern Belarus
              Russians take Southern Belarus from Germans
        1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk
        1 artillery moved from Archangel to Nenetsia
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vologda
        1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone

    Combat - Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 aaGun, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
        2 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
        3 infantry moved from Rostov to Kursk
        1 infantry moved from Kursk to Rostov
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov
        4 artilleries and 18 infantry moved from Bryansk to Kursk
        2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Smolensk
        1 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Amur to Korea
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur

    Place Units - Russians
        9 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Russia
        3 infantry placed in Urals
        2 infantry placed in Siberia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 5 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1,1,5,6,3
        Russians collect 37 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 37 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 42 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[Stucifer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 3 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 7 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Kiangsi
        1 bomber moved from Davao to Kiangsi
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 23 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 23 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 50 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 55 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from New Guinea to 31 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 47 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 55 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 55 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Szechwan

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in 64 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 64 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            COMMENT: skipped scramble to 31 due to odds
        Battle in Szechwan
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan
            Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Battle in 23 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 carrier; ANZAC defend with 1 fighter
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 23 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 23 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in 23 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 carrier in 23 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the ANZAC and 1 carrier owned by the Americans lost in 23 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking 23 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26
            Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 fighter
        Battle in Kiangsi
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kiangsi, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kiangsi, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kiangsi
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kiangsi
            Japanese win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Battle in 31 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 31 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 31 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 31 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in 47 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 47 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 47 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 47 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 1 battleship, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 carrier moved from 43 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 55 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 56 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 55 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 31 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from 31 Sea Zone to Queensland
        2 infantry moved from Northern Australia to Queensland
        1 transport moved from 56 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 marine moved from Solomon Islands to 55 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 artillery moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 64 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 23 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 47 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Kiangsi to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
        4 infantry moved from Kyushu to 20 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 23 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 23 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 21 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 47 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 47 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsi to Hunan

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 fighter placed in Japan
        1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in French Indo China
        1 infantry placed in Malaya
        1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Japan
        1 infantry placed in Malaya

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.33
Americans regular : -1.50
Japanese regular : 3.33

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