Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 infantry and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar Japanese take Chahar from Chinese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Manchuria to Shansi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi Japanese take Kiangsi from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan Japanese take Hunan from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan Combat - Japanese Battle in Shansi Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Shansi from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 4 infantry Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Fukien to Kiangsi 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 marine moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hokkaido to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kyushu to 7 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 marine moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 7 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 21 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Fukien 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 3 infantry moved from Korea to Southern Manchuria 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Korea to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 2 bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 1 fighter moved from Formosa to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 7 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 2 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shansi to Kiangsu Place Units - Japanese 1 infantry placed in Japan 4 transports placed in 7 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 44 PUsLeague General Discussion Thread
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Much appreciation for everyones patience in our games, I am back now and should be able to post regularly. Just had to make sure I graduated highschool first, lol.
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Congrats! So glad you are here!
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@crockett36 I’m back too. Been awol for 3 weeks!
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Hi hope everyone is well, Can someone give me a quick reminder on where chinese units are allowed to move in G40 OOB? Can they move into Burma or not is ideally what im asking, or also could they send their fighter to attack burma alone? Thank you to whoever answers.
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Any Chinese unit can freely defend or attack Burma or Hong Kong.
China can even take control of these two territories if India is controlled by the Axis
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@gamerman01 @Jacob16 worth noting to that Chinese units (including the fighter) can move into Burma and Hong Kong before the UK is at war with Japan.
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I can’t play in any of my games, so I turn to… statistics.
I figured out some of Roboto’s data and charts.In the PTV, OOB, BM pinned discussion threads I shared statistics on Axis v Allies win % along with bids, especially the recent data over the past 18 months. Are you bidding enough?
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The pie chart of how many games of each version are played is also updated, to show the past 18 months rather than all-time. What are league players playing these days? Go to the statistics tab.
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expected tuv for G was around -32 and instead he scores 138…
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@axis-dominion Your play was superb. Sorry to have had the dice decide the match (that’s why I offered to go LL for the 1-2 combo for those battles - I just wanted to wipe out your ground, since Germany could replenish quickly, and didn’t want it to end the game). Happy to have a rematch some other time. Cheers.
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Yeah, sucks and extremely frustrating when it happens. But yourself as one of the top ELO players on these boards, the “rest of us regular folks” have to take extra risk in order to win.
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@axis-dominion Out of curiosity, would you not have done that attack, in my shoes? I had tons of ground units right there to replace German losses, and in any LL scenario, all Russian/US ground units are wiped out, allowing some German air to retreat, taking 100% of the pressure off of Germany. Even if you divert from max D and lose US planes (costly), Russia would still only be left with ~10 tanks next to two stacks of 10+ inf/arty in Austria and Slovakia-Hungary, with another 17 units placed in Germany/W.Germ that turn.
Germany was under pressure, and this removed it completely, with the sole risk being the loss of ground units on Germany’s doorstep (where it had another 40 at the end of this turn, plus whatever air retreated from Yugoslavia). No risk of losing the capital, and Russia’s nearest inf stack was way back in Russia.
I had captured and held London and Sydney several turns prior, and sacked India last turn, and was ahead with TUV, so removing the threat to Germany (at a risk that Germany could easily afford) was the smart play, in my view. It was why I offered to run the battles on LL beforehand - so that dice wouldn’t mess up the game.
It sucks that a brutal dicing ended our game. But wouldn’t you have taken that calculated risk, as Germany?
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i wouldn’t, unless i felt desperate enough and my only chance to win. at -32 tuv average, the chances of getting even worse than that is just too high, not to mention the prior risk you took with all those italian units (if they rolled badly or whiffed, that’s a massive loss right there in vain). even if it went to average, it would relieve some pressure in the short term yes, but allies have a fairly good position and could and only get stronger. as long as i feel i’m winning or have a decent shot at winning, i’d play the patient game and strike when odds were much better. you don’t become the #1 player in the world by taking huge risks in big battles like that. can you beat the #1 player swinging and taking such risks, of course, it’s a dice game after all. but can you get consistent wins and climb to the top and remain there for any sustained period taking such risks? i don’t think so, unless you really are master of luck, which maybe you are? lol
such arguments as yours are similar to those of players like ABH and his game theory, which, no disrespect but will never be a top tier player altho he will occasionally win against a top tier.
if you care to prove me wrong on that, we could change the result to the expected average and see if clearing the allied land units really made that much of a difference to the risks you took.
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@gamerman01 i’m curious, if i had won against peirce vs his beating me, what is the rating difference? ie i see that my rating took a serious nose dive after losing to him thanks to lady luck. i’m guessing if i had won, i’d gain almost nothing from it?
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@axis-dominion said in Post League Game Results Here:
if you care to prove me wrong on that, we could change the result to the expected average and see if clearing the allied land units really made that much of a difference to the risks you took.
@peirce This sounds like something to consider.
Of course, if A-D has already formally resigned (I haven’t seen that he has, for sure) then you are under no obligation whatsoever -
@axis-dominion you can make a copy of the spreadsheet and fill in your own results in the data tab to check this for any 2 players you wish
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The thing is, though, @peirce offered low luck, right? And so if the luck had gone against him, then…
So it seems @peirce might agree to continue to prove his statements, but the game result should not be changed, in my view, because he offered the LL, it was turned down, and then he got great luck
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@axis-dominion said in Post League Game Results Here:
@gamerman01 i’m curious, if i had won against peirce vs his beating me, what is the rating difference? ie i see that my rating took a serious nose dive after losing to him thanks to lady luck. i’m guessing if i had won, i’d gain almost nothing from it?
I’ll check for you right away.
It’s MrRoboto’s system, I wash my hands, but yes you are at a stratospheric rating and he is up and coming so there’s going to be a big adjustment when that happens -
My overall got murdered by a single throw of the dice in a Classic game this year…
You would have been +3
Because you’re ELO is super high
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@gamerman01 said in Post League Game Results Here:
The thing is, though, @peirce offered low luck, right? And so if the luck had gone against him, then…
So it seems @peirce might agree to continue to prove his statements, but the game result should not be changed, in my view, because he offered the LL, it was turned down, and then he got great luck
yeah i mean i lost fair and square, so he’s def the winner here. just that if he believes what he says strongly enough, he will back it up with action which in this case is to play from the position of an average outcome and see if he can prove his statements.
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