Path to Victory League Discussion

[mikawagunichi]

@axis-dominion I do legitimately like your positions. London falling and US getting original UK territories back from the axis and getting build infrastructure in places they almost never control in most games is another silver lining

[axis-dominion]

@Stucifer said in Path to Victory League Discussion:

@axis-dominion Do you feel that Germany can too consistently take London? I think the game is set up in a way that they can always have good odds to take it with the typical bid (9-15 IPCs, mostly given to Germany for subs and inf/art) and G1 naval buy. But there’s a lot of opportunity cost with taking London if they’ve bought units there, so 6inf/1 ftr or 9 inf UK1 usually deters me from going for it as Germany because the opportunity cost is so high.

yeah i agree with your assessment here, Germany seems to have an easier time compared to global/bm taking london with the bid and cheaper transports, etc. , but then it becomes a matter of how well the allies were prepared for that and set up for a strong push on the eastern front combined with the incoming american threat.

[Stucifer]

I’ve won several Allies games where I lost London, but it is very difficult for the axis to hold Gibraltar as well if it’s a round 3/4 Sealion. They usually haven’t spent enough money on fleet to do both unless all Italy did was take Gibraltar and load it up with a ton of ground units (might be a good strategy to try…)

That means America is coming and it’s angry. You can hold London for a while but obviously this weakens the eastern front which is where a lot more NOs are for both Ger&USSR.

I think Axis strategy of holding it by having a fleet in the Med and a decent ground presence on the Rock is more difficult to deal with as Allies because it still disables a lot of NOs, Italy usually has several turns of high income to build air and fleet, and Germany can focus mostly on planes which helps them push Russia back and at least secure their Leningrad NO (and planes in S Italy and Malta can hit Ukraine, so usually can take that factory as well)

[axis-dominion]

ok… make that THREE sea lion games i’m in now, and this time i did a full london buy lmao

[axis-dominion]

and STILL got smoked at a score of 71…

[Stucifer]

@axis-dominion If it makes you feel better we’re all learning the hard way against @peirce. Just lost an 85% battle with expected +18 tuv on average attacker wins, for a -52 instead! 😅😂😭

[axis-dominion]

ouch that’s painful! yeah my game with him so far is miserable, just this last turn i hit four DDs and ALL four of them hit like wtf kind of luck is that lol

[mikawagunichi]

@Stucifer @axis-dominion In our game he attacked Stalingrad with the intention of retreating after one round so my Samara stack couldn’t crack back, but rolled +10 hits and accidentally won. Then I outright lost this battle -26 IPCs vs expected +72. He graciously let us do a re-do but it still didn’t matter lol.

[Stucifer]

@mikawagunichi said in Path to Victory League Discussion:

@Stucifer @axis-dominion In our game he attacked Stalingrad with the intention of retreating after one round so my Samara stack couldn’t crack back, but rolled +10 hits and accidentally won. Then I outright lost this battle -26 IPCs vs expected +72. He graciously let us do a re-do but it still didn’t matter lol.

That’s incredible. MARTI can be wild sometimes

[axis-dominion]

lol more horror stories from this his victims…

[axis-dominion]

should we start a support group?

[gamerman01]

I’m waiting for a G1 scramble decision from him, let’s see if gamer luck overpowers his

[gamerman01]

@mikawagunichi Ah, the ol’ hit and run and accidentally mow down the whole army experience!

[Stucifer]

I’m starting a club, Dice Whiners Anonymous, membership will be exclusive to those with a -75 or higher expected TUV swing. Would you like to know more?

We’ll share spicy memes, AI videos, and occasionally, incorrigible strategies that will inevitably be upset by (probably) slight variations from average dice. And anything over a +1 or -1 from average is to be lamented with wailing and gnashing of teeth 😅😂

[axis-dominion]

@gamerman01 said in Path to Victory League Discussion:

I’m waiting for a G1 scramble decision from him, let’s see if gamer luck overpowers his

i’m gonna say, welcome to the club

[Stucifer]

@axis-dominion I was looking at your game against Adam and I was surprised you liberated France on round 11, is that because you couldn’t hold Southern France, so you might as well get a little more money from the NO? Just curious. I can’t remember the last time I saw France liberated without trying to hold it.

[axis-dominion]

yeah it was just to get some extra cash, i wasn’t able to hold it. i figured either he’d retake s.fra to get money back or leave it blue in which case he denies himself the money as well. was able to cash in on france bonus again, so that’s twice. after i did it, however, i realized it’s kinda a wash as i lose 4 points of territories turning blue.

more importantly, it’s fun :)

[gamerman01]

@Stucifer We do have this, a long running thread I started in 2013

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/21731/hall-of-shame-tales-of-the-worst-dice-ever/2?_=1751289867962

[axis-dominion]

one other thing, is it cost him at least 2 extra inf to take it back. very minor in the large scheme of things, but still. cuz who knows if i’ll ever get to actually liberating france for real.

[gamerman01]

I was gonna say, the 4 infantry can be a significant factor. Took out 3 German units? Crazy