L25 BM4 Adam514 (Axis) vs peirce (Allies+14)

[simon33]

@peirce said in L25 BM4 Adam514 (Axis) vs peirce (Allies+14):

@Adam514 Ahh, that loss in N. Italy and the S. Italy AA hits seals it, I think - I’ll concede. Was counting on US production in S. Italy next turn to delay Germany and give Russia a chance. Very well played, Adam!

Hmm, surprised you think there is no hope here. Allies have a significant income advantage over the Axis, still more troops too. USSR has a large income and Germany aren’t close to taking Moscow in my judgement. Leningrad should hold on a few turns too, which denies Germany a lot. Italy only has 4 units and not likely to get more any time soon. Iraq has a lot of Germans but if they move to take Egypt, USSR can take Iraq I would think. The IJN is ok but can’t attack the allies in 54 or at least they are pushing it at 51%, -28tuv by my reckoning. That’s if Anzac don’t mobilise anything there. Also, the Kreigsmarine should be toast.

One thing I wasn’t sure about was the stand in Yunnan J4, perhaps you felt you killed enough J to make it worthwhile. On paper, perhaps, although you got great dice there to achieve that. Was at the cost of the Chinese as a fighting force but perhaps it was a force well spent if it delayed the fall of India while not losing too much of China? To me, it would have made more sense to counter attack in Yunnan so that Japan’s planes couldn’t fight.

[peirce]

@simon33 Japan is just too strong. USA has had to split its forces for most of the game, and had to sacrifice significantly to forestall Japan from taking UK Pac. Russia can’t move too hard to India because it needs to keep that German force in Iraq from heading up North to join up with the rest of the German forces coming in hot.

This is a race against time, and if USA can’t hold Germany’s attention, Russia will suffer, and Japan will be able to have free rein in Pacific. As it is, USA is fighting a delay action there. When USA committed its forces to the Italian attack (which should have worked), that committed a lot of forces which were pinning down Germany’s Iraq forces from pivoting hard to Egypt - that was done to keep Germany from pressuring Russia hard, and would allow Russia to retake UK Pac, and hopefully keep that up and running so that Japan wouldn’t be able to claim victory.

With that Italian loss, on both fronts, USA’s threat is both neutered (losing all its units), without taking the S. Italian factory for 2x turns, which would have required Germany’s full attention. In short - and against a player of Adam’s quality - it’s a death-blow.

[simon33]

@peirce Oh so you think if USA consolidates at z54, Japan will be able to move to Solomons and then to Hawaii and nothing USA can do about it? A possibility. I would fight that move out though, personally. Allies have other options such as retaking India as you note.

[peirce]

@simon33 USA can fight a delaying action in Pacific, and with all those fighters I’d be able to keep things locked down for a few turns. But Japan’s TUV is over 1,000, and that’s in one theatre - USA is split (heavily) into two.

Unless USA was able to bring real pressure to bear in Europe such that Rus could get UK Pac back on its feet, Japan will run away with the game. It woud take either Hawaii or Anzac - that minimal fleet (splitting its attention to Europe) can’t hold of the full might of Japan for more than a few rounds. Game over.

[peirce]

@Adam514 Hey Adam, care for a rematch? I can take Allies at +14 again, if you’re willing!

[Adam514]

@peirce We can rematch, but 14 bid is on the low side. Are you sure you want Allies at 14?

[peirce]

@Adam514 Haha, I’ll take whatever you’re willing to give me!

[Adam514]

@peirce You’d get more if you were willing to play Axis from time to time.

[peirce]

@Adam514 I’m happy to play Axis also. Do you want Allies at 14?

[Adam514]

@peirce It’s more about the balance. I think the balancing point is much closer to 20. If you want Allies at 14, you can have them.

[peirce]

@Adam514 I hear you, but I’m wary of giving a player of your skill level a 20-bid - you’d be able to make a real hash of the Axis plans. I’ll take a fighter in Scotland and an arty in Sudan. GLHF!