Oztea's 1939 Global Setup

[Blackychan]

After playing a few games I have come to find it is heavy into the Allie’s. Just the number of IPCs they make and no unit restrictions is almost impossible to deal with. Anyone got suggestions on how the axis win?

[Cornwallis]

@oztea is there a final version of the rules? Is the game balanced or allied advantage?

[RIPSwissair]

Does the bonus that Japan gets when you own Korea and all original Chinese territories have at least 1 unit include Manchuria, Jehol, Shantung, and Kiangsu? Because my brother and I were wondering if the “Chinese” territories are included in the bonus. This game variant is great btw!

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@RIPSwissair

I would assume so, since they’re designated by the game as original Chinese territories.

[RIPSwissair]

@SuperbattleshipYamato
ok thanks!

[Blackychan]

@oztea does Russia still get the bonus for the 1 ipcs for pro axis pro allies and neutral when not at war

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@Blackychan

I don’t think that matters, since when you’re not at war you cannot take over neutrals of any kind, friendly, unfriendly, or strict.

[Blackychan]

@SuperbattleshipYamato I thought you could? Where in the rules does it say that? In triple A you can

[barnee]

@Blackychan said in Oztea's 1939 Global Setup:

@oztea does Russia still get the bonus for the 1 ipcs for pro axis pro allies and neutral when not at war

my understanding is that it does. It doesn’t say they don’t.

Spread of Communism
1 IPC for each Soviet control marker placed on any Axis, Pro-Axis, Pro-Allied, or Neutral territory. (Including Mongolia)

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@Blackychan

From the Europe 1940 Second Edition rulebook, Page 15, bluebox “Powers Not at War with One Another”:

“Neutral Powers: When a power is not at war with
anyone, it is neutral. Powers that begin the game
neutral, such as the United States and the Soviet
Union, aren’t initially part of the Allies or the Axis.
The Axis powers are on the opposite side of these
neutral powers, but they are not yet considered
enemies. While a power remains neutral, it operates under even tighter restrictions. A neutral power
can’t move land or air units into or through neutral
territories. It can’t move units into or through territories or onto ships belonging to another power or
use another power’s naval bases, nor can another
power move land or air units into or through its territories or onto its ships or use its naval bases.”

Oztea’s 1939 rules are generally built upon these mechanics.

https://store-kftzvkkgjv.mybigcommerce.com/content/File Storage for site/Rulebooks/Axis Allies/A%26A_Europe1940_2ndEd_Rulebook_WEB.pdf

Update:

I just remembered that to simulate the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, there are some pro-Axis and pro-Allied territories that the Soviet Union can march into before they’re at war. In those cases, I agree with Barnee that the bonus applies.

Sorry for forgetting and misunderstanding.

[Blackychan]

@SuperbattleshipYamato I mean you can also just declare war with Japan

[Blackychan]

@barnee mine too but the group wanted @oztea to clarify just in case and I was saying they do.

[barnee]

@Blackychan

oz hasn’t been around in a while. Will ping @crockett36 he might know how to get a message to him

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@Blackychan

Yes, but keep in mind that this doesn’t affect the game in Europe.

[Blackychan]

@SuperbattleshipYamato right but it only applies if stated specifically like it does in the rules for the original bonus. This version overrides the earlier bonus.

[crockett36]

@Blackychan said in Oztea's 1939 Global Setup:

@barnee mine too but the group wanted @oztea to clarify just in case and I was saying they do.

I will message him on fb right now.

[Blackychan]

@crockett36 thank you:)

[SuperbattleshipYamato]

@Blackychan

I’m not sure about that…

Hopefully someone can clarify this for us.

[crockett36]

@Blackychan did it. welcome.

[oztea]

@oztea said in Oztea's 1939 Global Setup:

If the Soviets can attack Finland and win, its all theirs. So Germany might want to get there first.

Yes, the Soviets can attack pro-axis forces, or activate pro Allied territories before it is at war with the germans

I should have clarified this yes. Soviets can interact with neutrals before they are at war with Germany. And I should have clarified the Soviet national objective should say “When at war with Germany”.

Glad you guys are still interested in the setup! Been playing a lot of WWII in Europe and the Pacific instead of A&A.