A lot of posters seemed stunned at this scenario, never scene it ever happen or even could happen. Now that I mulled it over last night and looked at the rules and so forth it is very obvious to me why no one has ever scene this scenario. Because the scenario makes no logical sense.
Italy DOW on Russia and moves in 2 tanks into Eastern Poland.
Russia is now at war with Italy and can DOW on Germany at the start of their next turn, turn 3.
Germany on Turn 3 does not DOW on Russia and just non combats into Eastern Poland.
Russia at the start of Turn 3 DOW on Germany and off we go.There is no logical reason why Russia would not DOW on Germany at the start of Turn 3, none.
Heck you could argue that it makes no logical sense that Germany did not DOW on Russia at the start of G3 since Italy brought Russia into the war and Russia WILL DOW on Germany on R3.
Hi PainState,
From my perspective, if I was planning on doing a G3 Barbarossa AND I wanted to drive towards the south, then yes, it makes sense to not DOW. My stack will be together except for the minimum required mobile units and maybe 1 AAA in Poland so Russia doesn’t attack Poland to get their NO for occupying an Axis territory. But E. Poland will be real strong because the German air will be there and maybe bombers will also be in range of a raid on the Moscow factory. Also, 5 IPCs is more income than I’d probably get as Germany on the 1st turn.
There are a few disadvantages of course. 1, Russian blockers can’t be attacked. 2, the Scandinavian units are behind. But for me that’s ok, I just use them to lay siege anyways. I never expect to get Moscow on turn 6 anymore. I assume that the UK/Anzac and that lone French fighter are going to get to Moscow.Â
When going for Moscow as Germany...
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Do you prefer amassing one large army and plodding along territory by territory?
Or do you like to split your army up into a bunch of smaller armies?
Or is it situational - some times large army, sometimes smaller armies? or some weird combo of one large army, one small army, etc.
If so for any of the options, what drives your decision?
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As germany you dont have the option really, if russia plays defensive and stacks you either have 1 big stack or get taken out piece by piece.
If they really stack leninggrad hard you just go there first with your stack and take out the bigger part of their army.
1 big stack cannot really be held by russia, so soon you birdcage them and then you reinforce from 3 factories closeby where russia has only income for a few infantry.
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Armor and Tac Air…dont pussy foot around.
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@shadowhawk just for the sake of clarity,what is “birdcaging”?
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@ampdrive said in When going for Moscow as Germany...:
@shadowhawk just for the sake of clarity,what is “birdcaging”?
Its where you pushed russia so far that they are really trapped in moscow. They cant attack you realistically and moving small forces out of moscow to take back some zones around it would only weaken them to much.
So they are trapped like a bird in a cage.
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@shadowhawk said in When going for Moscow as Germany...:
So they are trapped like a bird in a cage.
:)
Just hope the bird doesn’t get free :)
Unlikely that it may be :)
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@ampdrive TY shadow.Sometimes it’s a tough bird in the cage and it’s best to keep it contained.
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