L25 BM4 UHD Surfer(X) vs Pacifiersboard (L+21)

[pacifiersboard]

@surfer

no scramble to sz115, sub submerges

[surfer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: UHD World War II Global

Game History

Round: 2

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Germans
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
        Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
              Germans take Vyborg from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
              Germans take Baltic States from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
              Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
        4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
        1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece
        2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Greece
        1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Greece
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 4 infantry
            Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Greece
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 3 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
            Germans win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
        Battle in 115 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
            Russians defend with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 115 Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 115 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
            Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to 115 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        6 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Vyborg
        2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        1 aaGun and 1 armour moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
        2 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
        1 fighter moved from Greece to Alexandria
        1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        2 bombers moved from Greece to Southern Italy
        1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland
        2 tactical_bombers moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland
        5 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from France to Greater Southern Germany
        1 armour moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Alexandria
        1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to 97 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Alexandria

    Place Units - Germans
        2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Neutral_Allies regular : -1.33
Russians regular : -0.67
Germans regular : -0.00

Savegame

[surfer]

@pacifiersboard Just want to say I noted that this version may have a bug in the NOs. It says the Russians will get 2IPCs for Archangel this turn. But they shouldn’t until next turn. Please check after your turn is over and edit as necessary.

If it does give you 2 iPCs, I guess we should tell the game designers.

[surfer]

@pacifiersboard Ok. Who wrote this version of the game? The notes attribute Bung and Veqryn but that could just be a general attribution. Would like to file bug reports

Marines: load cost = 4? (i.e., 1 marine per transport…) and cannot load them on Cruisers.

[pacifiersboard]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: UHD World War II Global

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 fighter and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Russians
        Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States

    Combat - Russians
        Russians creates battle in territory 115 Sea Zone
        Battle in 115 Sea Zone
            Russians attack with 1 submarine
            Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 submarine and 1 transport
            1 submarine owned by the Russians submerged
        Battle in Baltic States
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
            1 fighter owned by the Russians retreated
            Germans winGermans winGermans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Belarus
        2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
        5 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Vologda
        1 aaGun and 10 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur

    Place Units - Russians
        3 infantry placed in Ukraine
        1 fighter and 6 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs
        Trigger Russians BM Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs
        Trigger Russians BM Archangel Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 40 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing PUs for Russians from 40 to 38
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0,67
Russians regular : -0,67

Savegame

[pacifiersboard]

@surfer

I edited the NO income and posted in the Map thread … shall we take effort to transfer our game to usual map?

[surfer]

@pacifiersboard i think we are fine. The NO will be active next round. And edit to transport marine is inconvenient, but small effort compared to edit new game.
Plus we will further play test the map which helps the designers.

[barnee]

@pacifiersboard said in L25 BM4 UHD Surfer(X) vs Pacifiersboard (L+21):

shall we take effort to transfer our game to usual map?

Just a heads up. I have the fix figured. Be a hour or two before it’s up. Unfortunately, it’s a xml fix, so it won’t work with your current save.

This is the first BM game I’m aware of being played on UHD. Cool you checking it out :) Anyway, if you do continue on, keep an eye out for any other errors :) Feeling pretty solid about it now though.

One thing I might do, is look for a more badass looking Marine. That can be added at any time though, so not a huge deal there. And people can add there own as well :)

[barnee]

@pacifiersboard @surfer
Fix is up. If using prerlease you may need to uninstall and then install. Idk how triplea rolls with that these days.

Most likely though, it’ll go to 100% and then back to 0% 3 times before it finishes on the install.

Let me know if you have any trouble getting it downloaded.

[barnee]

@pacifiersboard @surfer

I’m updating your save with current now. Just finished G. It takes the longest, so probably another hour or so.

You’ll wanna double check obviously but I’m going move by move, getta see how you guys play that way :) so hopefully it comes through clean.

[barnee]

@pacifiersboard @surfer

Here’s a save of your guy’s game that’ll work with latest update

pacifer UHD redo.tsvg

[barnee]

@surfer said in L25 BM4 UHD Surfer(X) vs Pacifiersboard (L+21):

And edit to transport marine is inconvenient, but small effort compared to edit new game.

heh heh Glad you wanna play on but I did find some more issues with Marine loading thing. All of the land units needed to be triggered as well as the Trprt for BM Rules. My bad :(
Fixed now though :)

[surfer]

@barnee Thanks for rebuilding our game. I downloaded the new version, and the marine now loads as expected.

Just one item that is problematic and this is probably self-inflicted pain.

The new map + new icons was a bit much for play first time. I have to spend a lot of time ensuring I know what all the units are since they look different and with the new map are placed differently.

All fine, but @pacifiersboard and I decided to use the G40 icons, and updated the map/units folder to copy the G40. I did that again after downloading the new game. I would have expected that when I run the new game, I would see the G40 icons. Surprisingly, the new UHD icons are used. I really would have thought the engine used the map folder for the icons, but does the “save game” store a copy, and that becomes default–that would be surprising redundancy of save space since it would happen for every game?
If not, where are these icon images coming from?

I have checked that the map/units folders on G40 and UHD are identical (a diff of the two folders shows no differences).

Any suggestions?

[surfer]

@barnee Ok. NVM…I guess I had re-re overwritten the units directory when I tried reloading. It works as expected now with the G40 icons

[barnee]

@surfer

Right on. Yea, it took me 2-3 games to get comfortable with the new units. I really like them now though :)

[pacifiersboard]

@barnee said in L25 BM4 UHD Surfer(X) vs Pacifiersboard (L+21):

@pacifiersboard @surfer

Here’s a save of your guy’s game that’ll work with latest update

pacifer UHD redo.tsvg

THX A LOT!! So what I have to do is download most recent map version ? (Engine version 2.6.14752 is not affected?) And if I like substitute “units” folder again

[surfer]

@pacifiersboard yep

[surfer]

Testing Forum poster

Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 2.6.14526, time: 4:11:07 PM
Savegame

[surfer]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: UHD World War II Global

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 carrier, 4 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
              Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
              Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
              Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
        4 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        4 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Yunnan
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 3 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 5/14 hits, 7.00 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
            Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
        1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to Hunan
        1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
        1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Kweichow
        2 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
        3 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria
        1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Siam to 37 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to 19 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Yunnan to 36 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to Manchuria
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        2 bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 37 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
        1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Manchuria
        1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 carrier and 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
        4 infantry placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs
        Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -1.00
Japanese regular : -2.00

Savegame

[pacifiersboard]

@surfer

forgot Russian sub in sz111 - may I move to 105?