L25 BM4 UHD Surfer(X) vs Pacifiersboard (L+21)
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 1
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: UHD World War II Global
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 94 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 94 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in Trans-Jordan Battle in 94 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 94 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 94 Sea Zone Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Alexandria Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry British defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Alexandria 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria Italians win, taking Alexandria from British with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 2 fighters moved from 94 Sea Zone to Tobruk 1 bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Albania to Romania 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 2 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria Place Units - Italians 1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.67 British regular : 0.33 -
TripleA Turn Summary: French round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: UHD World War II Global
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 marine; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch 1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 2 aaGuns moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 marine placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 15 PUs Politics - French Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Algeria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 cruiser placed in 93 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Tunisia Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 destroyer placed in 93 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 artillery placed in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Morocco Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Syria Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in French West Africa Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Tunisia Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French West Africa Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Central Africa Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Algeria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Syria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Morocco Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Algeria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Remove: has removed 1 cruiser owned by French in 93 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Tunisia Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Remove: has removed 1 destroyer owned by French in 93 Sea Zone Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Remove: has removed 1 artillery owned by French in Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Morocco Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Madagascar Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France Syria 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Syria Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Southern France Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Indo China Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 3 Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Guiana Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Remove Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in French West Africa Combat Move - French 1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Scotland Non Combat Move - French Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 2
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: UHD World War II Global
Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States Germans take Baltic States from Russians 1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians 4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Greece 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone Combat - GermansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@pacifiersboard Scramble?
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@pacifiersboard and/or submerge
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no scramble to sz115, sub submerges
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: UHD World War II Global
Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Germans Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States Germans take Baltic States from Russians 1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians 4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Greece 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in Greece Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 4 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.50 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Greece 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 3 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece Germans win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry Battle in 115 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 115 Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 115 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to 115 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 6 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Vyborg 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 aaGun and 1 armour moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland 2 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland 2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 1 fighter moved from Greece to Alexandria 1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 2 bombers moved from Greece to Southern Italy 1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland 2 tactical_bombers moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland 5 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from France to Greater Southern Germany 1 armour moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Alexandria 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to 97 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Alexandria Place Units - Germans 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Neutral_Allies regular : -1.33 Russians regular : -0.67 Germans regular : -0.00 -
@pacifiersboard Just want to say I noted that this version may have a bug in the NOs. It says the Russians will get 2IPCs for Archangel this turn. But they shouldn’t until next turn. Please check after your turn is over and edit as necessary.
If it does give you 2 iPCs, I guess we should tell the game designers.
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@pacifiersboard Ok. Who wrote this version of the game? The notes attribute Bung and Veqryn but that could just be a general attribution. Would like to file bug reports
Marines: load cost = 4? (i.e., 1 marine per transport…) and cannot load them on Cruisers.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: UHD World War II Global
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 fighter and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Russians Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States Combat - Russians Russians creates battle in territory 115 Sea Zone Battle in 115 Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 submarine Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 submarine and 1 transport 1 submarine owned by the Russians submerged Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States 1 fighter owned by the Russians retreated Germans winGermans winGermans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Belarus 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk 5 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Vologda 1 aaGun and 10 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur Place Units - Russians 3 infantry placed in Ukraine 1 fighter and 6 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs Trigger Russians BM Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs Trigger Russians BM Archangel Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 40 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing PUs for Russians from 40 to 38 EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0,67 Russians regular : -0,67 -
I edited the NO income and posted in the Map thread … shall we take effort to transfer our game to usual map?
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@pacifiersboard i think we are fine. The NO will be active next round. And edit to transport marine is inconvenient, but small effort compared to edit new game.
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@pacifiersboard said in L25 BM4 UHD Surfer(X) vs Pacifiersboard (L+21):
shall we take effort to transfer our game to usual map?
Just a heads up. I have the fix figured. Be a hour or two before it’s up. Unfortunately, it’s a xml fix, so it won’t work with your current save.
This is the first BM game I’m aware of being played on UHD. Cool you checking it out :) Anyway, if you do continue on, keep an eye out for any other errors :) Feeling pretty solid about it now though.
One thing I might do, is look for a more badass looking Marine. That can be added at any time though, so not a huge deal there. And people can add there own as well :)
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@pacifiersboard @surfer
Fix is up. If using prerlease you may need to uninstall and then install. Idk how triplea rolls with that these days.Most likely though, it’ll go to 100% and then back to 0% 3 times before it finishes on the install.
Let me know if you have any trouble getting it downloaded.
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I’m updating your save with current now. Just finished G. It takes the longest, so probably another hour or so.
You’ll wanna double check obviously but I’m going move by move, getta see how you guys play that way :) so hopefully it comes through clean.
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Here’s a save of your guy’s game that’ll work with latest update
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@surfer said in L25 BM4 UHD Surfer(X) vs Pacifiersboard (L+21):
And edit to transport marine is inconvenient, but small effort compared to edit new game.
heh heh Glad you wanna play on but I did find some more issues with Marine loading thing. All of the land units needed to be triggered as well as the Trprt for BM Rules. My bad :(
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@barnee Thanks for rebuilding our game. I downloaded the new version, and the marine now loads as expected.
Just one item that is problematic and this is probably self-inflicted pain.
The new map + new icons was a bit much for play first time. I have to spend a lot of time ensuring I know what all the units are since they look different and with the new map are placed differently.
All fine, but @pacifiersboard and I decided to use the G40 icons, and updated the map/units folder to copy the G40. I did that again after downloading the new game. I would have expected that when I run the new game, I would see the G40 icons. Surprisingly, the new UHD icons are used. I really would have thought the engine used the map folder for the icons, but does the “save game” store a copy, and that becomes default–that would be surprising redundancy of save space since it would happen for every game?
If not, where are these icon images coming from?I have checked that the map/units folders on G40 and UHD are identical (a diff of the two folders shows no differences).
Any suggestions?
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@barnee Ok. NVM…I guess I had re-re overwritten the units directory when I tried reloading. It works as expected now with the G40 icons
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Right on. Yea, it took me 2-3 games to get comfortable with the new units. I really like them now though :)
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