I’ve heard from everyone except @elche and @dawgoneit
Are either of you interested in playing?
Otherwise, it looks like everyone is interested except Eric Wool
OK, @elche just informed me that he would like to participate, and I sent a PM to Dawg.
I do know @dawgoneit is frustrated with technical issues right now
@Martin @gamerman01
I have no preference in whatever system is used as long as the baseline format is not Best of 1/Single Elimination. If there is an end-of-season bracket that is single-elim to determine a champion that is fine. If the final standing is just based on overall placement after all league games are played (with no playoff) that is also fine.
I feel strongly that the baseline game should use 2nd Edition rules configured with these optional rules:
Restricted attack (out of box rule)
Neutrals out of play (house rule)
Tech available on and after turn 4 (house rule)
Restricted attack is to prevent a catastrophic material imbalance that favors the allies. Neutrals out of play is to remove “Spanish Harlem”. Tech available on turn 4 is to prevent the USA tech spamming heavy bombers starting on the first turn AND ALSO to decrease the rate of games that go into 20+ turns.
As for bracketing, while I agree with @DoManMacgee, I feel strongly @gamerman01 should have full power to organize as he sees fit since he is assuming the burden of running the show.
@gamerman01 I have tied in with all of the gentlemen in the list. We are ready on your mark.
@The_Good_Captain said in Invitational Classic 2nd edition:
Would you all be so kind as to try out our Classic tournament? If so please post here that you are interested.
@DoManMacgee
@VictoryFirst
@Ragnell804
@kwaspek104
@Martin
@elche
@dawgoneit
@gamerman01
and myselfAlso, the godfather emeritus: @ericwool if you are still out there and wanted in.
We have maybe 8, 9, or 10 from what you’re telling me.
I’m sensing interest in a 2025 league category, maybe we see how much playing and interest there is in this tournament.
It also sounds like we don’t really want one and done. I checked out some ways of doing tournaments, and I favor the double elimination model.
You aren’t out until you lose twice. When you lose, you go down to the second bracket and play with others who’ve lost 1 game. Winner of the 2nd bracket faces winner of the first. Technically, to be double elimination the winner of the “loser” bracket would have to win TWICE, else the winner of the first bracket who loses a game to the lurking 2nd bracket winner would have only lost once. This is the way I think it should be (winner of 2nd bracket has to beat the winner of the first bracket twice in order to win it all)
This blue text is a link to the bracket spreadsheet:
2025 Classic Tournament bracket
You may want to bookmark this spreadsheet after clicking
I have tentatively set up brackets for a double elimination 2025 Classic tournament.
We have possible 10 players, with @dawgoneit having technical issues and a wafting call for @ericwool outstanding.
I used your round robin? results from before to do a little seeding, but nothing hard and fast. I have @The_Good_Captain as a #1 and Ragnell804 as #2 based on those results, but did not necessarily pair them with who MIGHT be a 7 or 8, after all, they probably don’t want to hit a bug with their windshield!
If you ask me any more about my pairings, I will give you some kind of answer but don’t make me hurt your feelings!
Seriously, let me know what you think, I don’t know you players much except some league players and their G40 records, and I did play kwas and elche one game of Classic last year. Rather small sample size.
So I await decisions on dawg and ericwool
It’s possible to do something about a #9 and #10 entry, but is so nice and clean if we just have 8. I would be willing to bow out if a 9 or 10 is wanting in, just putting that out there now.
One more time, this is a double elimination tournament which I think is a beautiful thing. You won’t be knocked out of the tournament just because you got paired up with the best Classic player in the world and lost in 2 rounds. You get another chance to rise from the ashes
If more play against more players in more of a round robin type thing is desired, I suggest we play this double elimination tournament and if you’re itching for more and want to see what you’re made of, we can kick off a 2025 league season.
I would also suggest, if Classic play starts in the league, that the game results from this tournament be counted as regular season league games for 2025, because more data is better than less. This is what we’ve done in the A&A.org league for many years (count tournament/playoff games).
Feedback is welcome, but of course we will only be doing things one way when it’s time to start!
I don’t know if @kwaspek104 is going to play in the tournament as the last time he was online was 20 days ago.
I’m in for the tournament
I added a tab to the tournament results board for guidelines and rules.
It’s just the ruleset @The_Good_Captain set out for us for the maximum enjoyment of us all,
And a little guidance on choosing sides if players both want the same side.
If @kwaspek104 doesn’t show, for The_Good_Captain, I figure that’s not much of a problem, The_Good_Captain gets a “bye” or plays ericwool or dawgoneit if they want in at some point
The “bye” would travel down to the losers bracket where someone there will get the automatic win.
Perhaps the first one to lose in bracket one may be given the bye, so that they do not begin crying
And I don’t think we have anything else to wait on, other than The_Good_Captain either plays Kwas, ericwool, dawgoneit, or takes the bye if none of them show.
You may contact your assigned opponent and begin!
@VictoryFirst I am not in a hurry because this came up quickly and I’m embroiled in 2 other hot contests, but that doesn’t mean I can’t start soon, contact me when ready!
Would you mind posting the link to the results board?
@Ragnell804 said in Invitational Classic 2nd edition:
Would you mind posting the link to the results board?
This is a link -
Classic Tournament 2025
Thanks so much for including me among the invitations, fellas! I’ll have to decline this time. I love classic and will get back to it sometime in the future, but having grade school kids puts me on the sidelines now. I plan to follow the posts to see how the tournament shakes out. Best of luck to all!
@gamerman01 I requested access to the tournament-related google docs, but while I wait, can you (or someone else in this thread) tell me who I am playing against?
And…
I notice there is only ONE pinned thread in the Tournament section, and it is many years old!
It is called “Tournament history”
This means that I can record the results there for posterity
(because I can post to it)
I just finished setting up double elimination brackets properly, so you can look again. It’s exciting just to look at it.
If you lose your 2 games and get knocked out, don’t despair! Play each other in the league section, and you will have a running ELO and can participate in more playoffs/tournaments in the future. Nothing says we have to wait until 1/1/26.
There is no signup or commitment in A&A.org league. Come and go, play a game, have your result recorded and a running rating. The rating is great so that you have a good indication how tough your prospective competition would be.
@DoManMacgee said in Invitational Classic 2nd edition:
@gamerman01 I requested access to the tournament-related google docs, but while I wait, can you (or someone else in this thread) tell me who I am playing against?
Granted -
Apologies, so I figured out I need to give access to all with a link, and I just found how to do that…
Now you will see that… you are paired with… @Martin !!!
Good luck with that 😉
If you don’t understand the double elimination bracket…
Just go out there and WIN!!
Lose twice, you’re out,
I couldn’t think of how to label it much better, so if you really want to understand it more and if you don’t understand it, I’ll be happy to tell you but I didn’t want to confuse everyone with my attempt to explain it up front
I didn’t know the double elimination bracket and like it. Do we post the game threads to “play boardgames” or to the “league forum”?
