Now that would hurt your bulls!
WaW Witt Germany best, Ron Italy, Seb and Wayne as Japan.
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@Elrood You didn’t ask for OOL in 86 either. And you took the US destroyers as hits when you still had attacking subs…and eliminated two cv with surprise shots because there were no dd. It’s probably not going to matter much, but anytime you have a big naval battle, you should let the defender choose OOL.
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@captainwalker we can do OOL, but that wake SZ battle was a one sided 100% slaughter… while the Malta SZ attack was more of a coin toss gamble at 50%
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@Elrood everyone should still ask opponent for OOL
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@captainwalker I don’t bother as much in a team game; different in a one on one , of course .
The Pacific battle was 90+%. Had to be full defence for the Allies.I must confess that I didn’t check the odds in the Med ; been too busy with family stuff.
Ron could have posted something , after he did his go , but , equally , probably didn’t want to suggest you guys had 50% on him .Ron : what did you want to do ? Does it matter that much ?
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@Witt full defense is keeping a dd until all attacking subs are gone…not the default the game chooses
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@captainwalker that is what I would do .
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@Witt this issue is for Ron and Karl to figure out. And, with the holidays upon us, Karl may not be able to get on here for a couple of days.
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Hmm, I ran the battle max defense for Italy as I was going for broke. I don’t think or recall there being an issue in the battle?
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by that I mean, I think all the subs were dead more or less at same time and there never was a point where either of us had a potential for sneak shot
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but, I can got back an look line by line if you want.
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I’m fine if folks just would rather continue or if we want to try to reroll things. I glanced through it and I think the issue would be this round casualties:
2 Fighters owned by the British, 3 Submarines owned by the British and 3 Destroyers owned by the British lost in 48 Sea Zone
5 Submarines owned by the Italians, 2 Transports owned by the Italians and 1 Destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 48 Sea Zone
British roll dice for 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Bomber, 2 Cruisers and 3 Fighters in 48 Sea Zone, round 4 : 6/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Battleship, 2 Carriers, 2 Destroyers and 3 Fighters in 48 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/9 hits, 4.50 expected hitsEssentially the destroyers should have been taken before the subs since the UK doesn’t have any subs/destroyers left. That would mean the 2 subs would roll first and potentially sink UK cruisers before the UK gets to roll.
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And yeah I didn’t expect the attack so didn’t give any OOL as it was like a 50/50 battle with Italy having I think a +20 TUV average.
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Yeah, but I would just have kept a dd, which wouldn’t have change my attack profile as my ftrs were still at 2 and still had three of them
So, yeah, not sure it would make any difference
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But to be fair I will do a line by line to see if I screwed up…
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Itay was doing fine until that 3rd Round , when you just had 8 UK units vs 9 It ones.
Not sure why you rolled another Round, Karl, but it won you the battle. You hit 6 times and Italy just 2, with 22 attack vs 27 defence. -
I forgot to say that Ron needed to move my 3 Gib ships on his go. Hope that is still okay.
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@captainwalker said in WaW Witt Germany best, Ron Italy, Seb and Wayne as Japan.:
@Elrood everyone should still ask opponent for OOL
Agreed! I honestly thought the engine would go for max defense… but it also includes costs I realized
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War
Game History
Round: 7 Combat Move - Italians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode EDIT: 1 Destroyer and 2 Submarines moved from 41 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys moved from Kufra to Darfur 1 Infantry moved from New Valley to Nubia Italians take Nubia from British 1 Infantry moved from Kufra to New Valley 2 Artillerys, 3 Elites, 17 Infantrys, 1 Mech.Inf and 4 Tanks moved from Kufra to Mersa Matruh 2 Artillerys and 17 Infantrys moved from Tobruk to Mersa Matruh 1 Infantry moved from Tobruk to Kufra 2 Tanks moved from E.Morocco to S.Algeria 4 Transports moved from 41 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 2 Artillerys moved from Provence to Lombardy 1 Artillery and 9 Infantrys moved from Rome to Campania 1 Infantry moved from Tuscany to Rome Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Carrier, 1 Destroyer, 1 Fighter, 4 Infantrys, 1 Submarine, 3 Tanks and 1 Transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - Italians Battle in Darfur Italians attack with 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys French defend with 1 Artillery Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys in Darfur, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 Artillery in Darfur, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys in Darfur, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 Artillery in Darfur, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Artillery owned by the French lost in Darfur Italians win, taking Darfur from British with 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for French: 1 Artillery Non Combat Move - Italians 1 AAGun moved from Campania to Rome 1 AAGun moved from Tuscany to Lombardy 1 AAGun moved from Lombardy to Provence 1 Adv.Fighter and 1 Fighter moved from Darfur to Mersa Matruh Place Units - Italians 4 Infantrys placed in E.Morocco 3 Tanks placed in Hun 1 Carrier, 1 Destroyer, 1 Submarine and 1 Transport placed in 46 Sea Zone 1 Adv.Fighter and 1 Fighter placed in 46 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 77 PUs; end with 77 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.33 British regular : -0.67 -
TripleA Turn Summary: French round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War
Game History
Round: 7 Combat Move - French 1 Artillery and 1 Elite moved from French Equatorial Africa to Darfur 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Darfur 1 Elite and 1 Infantry moved from Lower Egypt to Nubia Purchase Units - French French buy 2 Infantrys and 2 Mot.Infs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - French Battle in Nubia French attack with 1 Elite and 1 Infantry Italians defend with 1 Infantry French roll dice for 1 Elite and 1 Infantry in Nubia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 Infantry in Nubia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Italians lost in Nubia French win, taking Nubia from Italians with 1 Elite and 1 Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Italians: 1 Infantry Battle in Darfur French attack with 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry Italians defend with 2 Infantrys French roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry in Darfur, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 Infantrys in Darfur, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the French lost in Darfur French roll dice for 2 Artillerys and 1 Elite in Darfur, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 Infantrys in Darfur, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits French roll dice for 2 Artillerys and 1 Elite in Darfur, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 Infantrys in Darfur, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 Artillerys owned by the French lost in Darfur 2 Infantrys owned by the Italians lost in Darfur French win, taking Darfur from Italians with 1 Elite remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for French: 2 Artillerys and 1 Infantry Casualties for Italians: 2 Infantrys Non Combat Move - French 1 Tank moved from French Equatorial Africa to Nubia 2 Infantrys moved from Cairo to Lower Egypt 4 Infantrys moved from Syria to Palestine 2 Tanks moved from Spanish Guinea to French Equatorial Africa 1 Infantry moved from Spanish Guinea to French Equatorial Africa 1 Transport moved from 8 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from Quebec to 7 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys and 1 Transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone Place Units - French 2 Mot.Infs placed in Syria 2 Infantrys placed in French Equatorial Africa Turn Complete - French French collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.67 French regular : -1.33
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