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VF (Germany) vs. Ragnell (Allies) | Original Europe with Balance 2.0, Game 11
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Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 transport moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France Americans take France from Germans 1 destroyer moved from British Convoy 1 Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco Americans take Morocco from Germans Combat - Americans Battle in U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber and 2 destroyers Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 destroyers in U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone Americans win, taking U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 bomber and 2 destroyers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans 2 artilleries moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United States to United Kingdom 2 artilleries, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 bomber moved from U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone to United Kingdom Place Units - Americans 4 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in United States 3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0.67 Germans regular : -0.50 -
@VictoryFirst said in VF (Germany) vs. Ragnell (Allies) | Original Europe with Balance 2.0, Game 11:
The risk did not pay off… in fact it backfired and I had to eat two fighter deaths because of Russian infantry fire… 😣
To be fair, the dice gods gave you a chance to call off the attacks when it was just your ftrs left.
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Heh heh yeah, but I was too greedy as I wanted to kill of your remaining Russian infantry too. 😅 Still, we can learn from this game because we have the numbers that give us a sense how far this game is from what an average game would be.
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TUV Differential / Net TUV Round 3
After G3
Eastern Front: -39.4 / -26
Atlantic/WA: -8.77/ +27
Africa/Med: -4.63 / -8
Total: -52.80 / -7After Allied3
Eastern Front: -39.48 / -35
Atlantic/WA: -15.33 / +15
Africa/Med: -4.63 / -8
Total: -59.44 / -28This is now even worse than my current game against TGC on the TripleA Forum, which I thought would be the worst game.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour moved from East Poland to Baltic States Germans take Baltic States from Russians 1 armour moved from Baltic States to Belorussia 8 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia Combat - Germans Battle in Belorussia Germans attack with 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 12/42 hits, 12,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 9 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 1 fighter moved from Poland to East Poland 1 bomber moved from Poland to Germany Place Units - Germans 13 infantry placed in Germany Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to East Poland: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0,33 Germans regular : 0,00 -
I really dont know why i keep doing this moving to Leningrad and giving you the inside track to Moscow. I feel like I should’ve learned from my first 4 times doing this.
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@Ragnell804 said in VF (Germany) vs. Ragnell (Allies) | Original Europe with Balance 2.0, Game 11:
I really dont know why i keep doing this moving to Leningrad and giving you the inside track to Moscow. I feel like I should’ve learned from my first 4 times doing this.
By this I mean stupid mistake lol
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I had to laugh out loud when I noticed that, and even more so after reading your comment 🤣 Sixth times the charm!
We can go again after this. Right now I am mostly interested in a game where the TUV differential is as close to 0 as possible - and then look what the odds for a German win are. However I must say, now that the main move of my German opener - attacking Ukraine - is not viable anymore, I kinda have to go back to the drawing board and test some new G1 strategies. I feel like at this point withdrawing from the EF combats is better to avoid painful Russian counter-attacks. In any case, I think we need at least 5 more games to see if Europe is balanced now.
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Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia 3 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Belorussia 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 35 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia Combat - Russians Battle in Belorussia Russians attack with 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 39 infantry Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry Germans roll AA dice in Belorussia : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 39 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 9/46 hits, 10.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 12/42 hits, 14.00 expected hits 12 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia 9 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia Russians roll dice for 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 27 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 11/34 hits, 8.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 18 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 8/33 hits, 11.00 expected hits 8 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia 11 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia Russians roll dice for 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 19 infantry in Belorussia, round 4 : 8/26 hits, 6.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 7 infantry in Belorussia, round 4 : 10/22 hits, 7.33 expected hits 10 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 7 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia Russians roll dice for 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Belorussia, round 5 : 4/16 hits, 5.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 9 armour and 5 artilleries in Belorussia, round 5 : 5/14 hits, 4.67 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia 4 artilleries owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia Russians roll dice for 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Belorussia, round 6 : 5/11 hits, 4.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 9 armour and 1 artillery in Belorussia, round 6 : 4/10 hits, 3.33 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 4 armour owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia Russians roll dice for 5 artilleries, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Belorussia, round 7 : 2/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 5 armour in Belorussia, round 7 : 3/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 3 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia 2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Belorussia, round 8 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 armour in Belorussia, round 8 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia 3 armour owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia Russians win, taking Belorussia from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Russians: 4 artilleries, 1 bomber and 39 infantry Casualties for Germans: 9 armour, 6 artilleries and 27 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Moscow 8 armour moved from Finland to Russia 1 aaGun moved from Russia to Moscow 1 aaGun moved from Karelia to Russia 1 aaGun moved from Stalingrad to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 transport moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Moscow Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans AA : -0.33 Germans regular : 1.00 Russians regular : 2.83 -
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - British British buy 7 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Eastern France British take Eastern France from Germans 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Rumania British take Rumania from Germans Combat - British Non Combat Move - British 1 transport moved from Norwegian Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 armour moved from Norway to Karelia 2 fighters moved from Leningrad to Karelia 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Western Mediterranean Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from British Convoy 2 Sea Zone to Azores Sea Sea Zone Place Units - British 7 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 transport placed in English Channel Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 35 PUs; end with 38 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 5 artilleries and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria Americans take Algeria from Germans 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Northern Italy Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 6 and costs: 6 PUs. Bombing raid costs 6 PUs Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery moved from Morocco to South Atlantic Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to France 1 destroyer moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to United States 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Karelia Place Units - Americans 5 artilleries placed in United States 3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Stalingrad: 2 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Turkestan: 2 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Well it appears my ruse worked! But really though I got lucky I got those 3 more hits.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 13 infantry moved from Germany to Netherlands-Belgium 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Germany to Netherlands-Belgium 2 fighters moved from East Poland to Netherlands-Belgium 1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia Combat - Germans Battle in Belorussia Germans attack with 1 artillery and 18 infantry Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 1 artillery Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 18 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 3/19 hits, 3,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 1 artillery and 18 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery Battle in Netherlands-Belgium Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 13 infantry British defend with 2 artilleries and 5 infantry; Americans defend with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 13 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 3/17 hits, 4,33 expected hits British roll dice for 4 artilleries and 7 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 3,67 expected hits 5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Netherlands-Belgium 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Netherlands-Belgium Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 8 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 3 : 3/12 hits, 3,50 expected hits British roll dice for 4 artilleries and 4 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 3 : 2/8 hits, 2,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Netherlands-Belgium 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Netherlands-Belgium Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 6 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 4 : 3/10 hits, 3,17 expected hits British roll dice for 4 artilleries and 1 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Netherlands-Belgium 2 artilleries owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Netherlands-Belgium 3 fighters owned by the Germans and 1 bomber owned by the Germans retreated 4 infantry owned by the Germans retreated to Germany British win with 2 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 9 infantry Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 2 artilleries and 5 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to East Poland 2 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 3 armour moved from East Poland to Belorussia Place Units - Germans 8 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 27 PUs; end with 28 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0,33 Germans regular : -2,50 British regular : 1,00 -
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 armour and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Non Combat Move - Russians 8 armour moved from Russia to Moscow Place Units - Russians 1 armour and 6 infantry placed in Moscow Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - British British buy 8 artilleries and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Rumania to Hungary British take Hungary from Germans Combat - British Non Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Turkestan to Moscow 1 armour and 2 fighters moved from Karelia to Moscow 1 transport moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 2 destroyers moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern France to Netherlands-Belgium Place Units - British 8 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 4 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 9 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from France to Northern Italy 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia Americans take Tunisia from Germans Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 6 and costs: 6 PUs. Bombing raid costs 6 PUs Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Netherlands-Belgium 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 8 artilleries moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 8 artilleries and 4 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 2 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 8 artilleries moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from Karelia to Moscow Place Units - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 9 to 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 transport placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 4 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 46 PUs; end with 47 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 6 armour and 1 fighter moved from East Poland to Moscow 1 armour moved from Belorussia to Turkestan Germans take Turkestan from Russians 1 armour moved from Turkestan to Moscow 2 armour, 1 artillery and 18 infantry moved from Belorussia to Moscow 1 bomber moved from Germany to Moscow Combat - Germans Battle in Moscow Germans attack with 9 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 18 infantry British defend with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry; Americans defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 9 armour, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 14 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Moscow : 1/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 18 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 7/29 hits, 8,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 10 armour, 4 fighters and 16 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 9/30 hits, 11,33 expected hits 9 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 5 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 9 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 6/20 hits, 7,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 10 armour, 4 fighters and 9 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 6/23 hits, 9,00 expected hits 6 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 6 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 9 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 7/14 hits, 6,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 10 armour, 4 fighters and 3 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 7/17 hits, 7,00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 3 infantry owned by the Russians and 4 armour owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 6 armour and 1 bomber in Moscow, round 5 : 2/7 hits, 3,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 6 armour and 4 fighters in Moscow, round 5 : 8/10 hits, 4,67 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Germans and 6 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 2 armour owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Russians win with 4 armour and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -52 Casualties for Germans: 9 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 18 infantry Casualties for Russians: 6 armour and 14 infantry Casualties for British: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans Place Units - Germans 7 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 26 PUs; end with 27 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -2,00 Germans regular : -3,67 Russians AA : 0,67 -
go again?
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Yes, let’s go again. I am going finish off calculating the statistics of this game and fire away the G1. I think I’d like to play two or three more games as Germany, after which I’d like to switch sides.
GG, the Leningrad mistake wasn’t enough to turn the tides, but it was enough to turn my stomach of laughter! 😂
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I will admit I caught the 30% to win that Belo Russia fight. I don’t think I would’ve won if I didn’t win that fight. I desperately needed that extra turn for the win.
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