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TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob
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Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy nothing; Remaining resources: 52 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Poland to English Channel Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from France to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to North Sea Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Malta 1 submarine moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Halifax Sea Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 4 Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 3 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 1 artillery moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 artillery moved from Hungary to East Poland 1 armour moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 2 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 1 armour moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 3 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Combat - Germans Battle in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 transports in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 2 transports owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 transports Battle in Malta Germans attack with 2 infantry British defend with 1 fighter Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in Malta, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter in Malta, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Malta 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Malta Germans win, taking Malta from British with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 fighter Battle in English Channel Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in English Channel Sea Zone 1 fighter owned by the Germans retreated British win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Battle in North Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 fighters, 3 submarines and 1 transport British defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 3 fighters and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine and 1 transport Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Vyborg Germans attack with 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Vyborg, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Vyborg, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in East Poland Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry Russians defend with 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland 1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Hungary Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in Bessarabia Germans attack with 1 armour and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Bessarabia, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 armour and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery moved from Czechoslovakia to Poland 1 artillery moved from Austria to Czechoslovakia 1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Austria 2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Hungary 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Rumania 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Yugoslavia 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary 1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia to Hungary 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Poland 2 armour moved from France to Germany 1 infantry moved from Denmark to Germany 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 4 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany 1 fighter moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Algeria 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Austria 1 fighter moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Germany 1 fighter moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 bomber moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Germany 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 armour moved from Poland to Hungary 1 armour moved from Poland to Hungary Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 93 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -1.00 Germans regular : 2.33 British regular : -1.17 -
@The_Good_Captain Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from White Sea Sea Zone to North Atlantic Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Archangel to Vyborg 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Vyborg 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vyborg 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Baltic States 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Belorussia to Baltic States 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Moscow to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Baltic States 1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Caucasus to Stalingrad 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Belorussia 3 infantry moved from Turkestan to Belorussia 4 infantry moved from Moscow to Belorussia 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Siberia to Russia 3 infantry moved from Archangel to Russia Combat - Russians Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Germans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 2.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 1 fighter owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Russians retreated 4 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians retreated to Leningrad Germans win with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Battle in Vyborg Russians attack with 1 armour and 3 infantry Germans defend with 3 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Vyborg, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Vyborg, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Vyborg, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians retreated to Leningrad Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Siberia to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Moscow to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Turkestan to Leningrad 1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Russia 1 aaGun moved from Moscow to Belorussia Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Leningrad Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.00 Russians regular : -0.17Rest will come later. Stuff to do, calcs to make.
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@The_Good_Captain British attack Germans in North Sea Zone:
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[dice 3d6<=3]
[dice 1d6<=4] -
3d6<=3: 2, 4, 5; Hits: 1
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@The_Good_Captain And now the subs firing back:
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2d6<=2: 3, 4; Hits: 0
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@dicebot @The_Good_Captain Sweet.
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - British British buy nothing; Remaining resources: 25 PUs; Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from North Sea Sea Zone: 2 submarines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode EDIT: 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from North Atlantic Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from English Channel Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Sea Zone EDIT: 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to North Atlantic Sea Zone EDIT: British undo move 4. 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from English Channel Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Syria to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Palestine to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Libya British take Libya from Germans 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Libya 2 infantry moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Egypt 1 armour moved from Egypt to Libya British take Libya from Germans 1 armour moved from Libya to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Iran Combat - British Non Combat Move - British 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 aaGun and 1 armour moved from Canada to United States Turn Complete - British British collect 16 PUs; end with 41 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@The_Good_Captain Americans attack Germans in Davis Strait:
[dice 2d6<=3]
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2d6<=3: 2, 1; Hits: 2
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@The_Good_Captain And once again, the subs:
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2d6<=2: 6, 2; Hits: 1
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@The_Good_Captain Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Davis Strait Sea Zone: 2 submarines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from United States to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone Combat - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Iceland Place Units - Americans 3 fighters placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 44 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
VF may have already cracked this for Axis’s side of the house in the game I have Vs. him currently. Need to see what he ends up doing on his turn though.
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VF may have already cracked this for Axis’s side of the house in the game I have Vs. him currently. Need to see what he ends up doing on his turn though.
Don’t forget to account for the dice spread, especially on the first turn.
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end of round 1 dice results, Germany:
East Front: +0.78
Atlantic: -0.08
Med/Africa: -0.33Net: +0.37 Germany: ladies and gentlemen - the most perfectly balanced opener.
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@The_Good_Captain You’re overthinking it. VF literally just built one more wave of tanks and that pushed things right back to 99% Germany.
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@The_Good_Captain said in TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob:
most perfectly
Heh heh they say this is incorrect, but still happy you finally got a normal opener and not one that was -10 for one side! 😁
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@DoManMacgee said in TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob:
@The_Good_Captain You’re overthinking it. VF literally just built one more wave of tanks and that pushed things right back to 99% Germany.
Okay the extra wave of tanks makes perfect sense. Thanks to @VictoryFirst for countering that but I’m going to double down. I’m ecstatic to see +0.37 Germany. I’m so happy. I will copy @VictoryFirst extra wave of tanks to be sure or you can try something else now that you know what’s coming.
You guys are proper opponents and exceptional players, cheers! So awesome to just blast through all this stuff so quick! Very clever!
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@The_Good_Captain Just as a heads-up I am not likely going to have any meaningful response at the moment. Now that the goalposts have shifted from defending against a G6 attack -> defending against a G7 (and beyond) attack I am more or less going to need to go back to the drawing board on the Allied side of the house.
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@DoManMacgee said in TGC (Germany) vs Doman (Allies) Europe, oob:
@The_Good_Captain Just as a heads-up I am not likely going to have any meaningful response at the moment. Now that the goalposts have shifted from defending against a G6 attack -> defending against a G7 (and beyond) attack I am more or less going to need to go back to the drawing board on the Allied side of the house.
That’s fine. I’m going to start cutting videos. I always discuss balance last so we have time.
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