@SuperbattleshipYamato Shocked your not going aggressive with Italy.
VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 1
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Yes, you can kill the TT before the DD.
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@VictoryFirst Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - British British buy 2 carriers; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Syria to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Baltic Sea Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Baltic Sea Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia British take Tunisia from Germans Combat - British Battle in Baltic Sea Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters Germans defend with 1 transport British roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 transport in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Baltic Sea Sea Zone British win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 transport Battle in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the British lost in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Germans and 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter owned by the British retreated Germans win with 1 battleship remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Libya 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Leningrad 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Belorussia Place Units - British 2 carriers placed in Atlantic Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 17 PUs; end with 22 PUs 1 unit repaired.Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.83 British regular : 1.33 -
@VictoryFirst Americans attack Germans in US Convoy (6 IPC Value):
[dice 4d6<=3]
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4d6<=3: 6, 1, 3, 4; Hits: 2
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@dicebot Sub Fires back:
[dice 1d6<=2] -
1d6<=2: 1; Hits: 1
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@VictoryFirst Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Davis Strait Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Baltic States 1 fighter moved from Iceland to Atlantic Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone Americans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Germans 3 fighters moved from United States to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Baltic States Americans attack with 1 bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Leningrad 3 fighters moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 3 fighters placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 48 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.33 Germans regular : -0.33 -
TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 8 armour; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 8 armour moved from East Poland to Leningrad 2 fighters moved from East Poland to Leningrad 1 fighter moved from Finland to Leningrad 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Germany to Leningrad 6 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 artillery moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone Germans take U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Americans Combat - Germans Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Leningrad Germans attack with 8 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters British defend with 2 fighters; Americans defend with 1 bomber; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory and 7 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Leningrad : 0/6 hits, 1,00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters in Leningrad, round 2 : 9/14 hits, 7,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 7 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 6/10 hits, 3,83 expected hits 6 armour owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad 7 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 bomber owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Leningrad Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters in Leningrad, round 3 : 2/8 hits, 4,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Leningrad, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Leningrad Germans win, taking Leningrad from Russians with 2 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30 Casualties for Germans: 6 armour Casualties for Russians: 7 infantry Casualties for British: 2 fighters Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber Non Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 artillery and 20 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 15 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Germany 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Germany 1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Germany 3 fighters moved from Leningrad to East Poland 1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary 3 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 battleship moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco Place Units - Germans 8 armour placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 47 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 1,17 Germans regular : -0,00 Russians AA : -1,00 -
I will get the statistics for round 2 and 3 at a later point, don’t feel like to crunch the numbers right now, mostly because I’ve spent a lot of time in the morning calculating stuff from you guys’ games 😅
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@VictoryFirst Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Karelia to Leningrad 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 artillery moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 5 armour, 2 artilleries and 29 infantry moved from Belorussia to Leningrad 1 submarine moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone British take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from Germans Combat - Russians Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 fighter Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12 Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 bomber Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Leningrad Russians attack with 5 armour, 3 artilleries and 34 infantry Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 2 armour and 1 factory Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries and 34 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 11/42 hits, 9.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 armour in Leningrad, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Leningrad 2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad Russians win, taking Leningrad from Germans with 5 armour, 3 artilleries and 32 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 armour Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Moscow 1 transport moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Moscow Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 2.67 Russians regular : 1.83UK/US turn later. Need to map some stuff out + take care of some things at my job.
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@VictoryFirst Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - British British buy 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 carriers and 4 fighters moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 armour moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R. Russians take Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria British take Algeria from Germans 1 fighter moved from Libya to Caucasus 1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Baltic States Combat - British Battle in Baltic States British attack with 1 bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Leningrad Place Units - British 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in English Channel Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.67 British regular : -0.33 -
1 DD Vs. 1 SUB (1v1) in American Convoy Zone (4 IPC).
Previously you said subs would always prefer to submerge but I have a suspicion this scenario may be an exception given the closer odds on this fight.
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@VictoryFirst Forgot to roll for USA:
[dice 1d6<=3]
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1d6<=3: 3; Hits: 1
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@VictoryFirst Disregard my previous ask since I hit. Rolling for sub:
[dice 1d6<=2]
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1d6<=2: 1; Hits: 1
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@VictoryFirst Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 4 fighters; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 fighters moved from United States to English Channel Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Leningrad Combat - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 4 fighters placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@DoManMacgee said in VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 1:
Previously you said subs would always prefer to submerge but I have a suspicion this scenario may be an exception given the closer odds on this fight.
Also in this case if your DD missed I would have submerged, since that is part of my strategy (in my opinion the most annoying thing you can do with the German subs is continously submerging, harassing the convoy centers and forcing the Allies to do something about it).
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 9 armour; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia Germans take Belorussia from Russians 2 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 3 fighters moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 battleship moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 2 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 2 Sea Zone from British 5 infantry moved from Vyborg to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians Combat - Germans Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany 3 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany 15 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 8 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Austria Place Units - Germans 9 armour placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 45 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0,33 Germans regular : -0,50 -
And to rephrase what I said above: I think capturing the convoy centers is worth more than killing the Allied naval units, mostly because in the latter case there is some risk involved.
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