Friendly match OOB with tech. Tech tokens will not be removed at the end of the turn.
TripleA version 2026-06.16.15640
Good luck, and have fun! And as you said a few years back: May the best German win ;-)
TGC (German) vs. Doman (Allies) Original Europe
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 4 Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Halifax Sea Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 armour moved from Hungary to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from Denmark to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Germany to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Baltic Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Baltic States 2 armour moved from Poland to East Poland 1 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 3 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 armour moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 fighter moved from France to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 1 armour and 6 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R. Combat - Germans Battle in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter and 4 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports Germans roll dice for 4 submarines in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 transports in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone 2 transports owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 1 fighter and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 transports Battle in Bessarabia Germans attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Bessarabia, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Bessarabia, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry Battle in East Poland Germans attack with 3 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 2/7 hits, 2,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in East Poland, round 4 : 3/5 hits, 2,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in East Poland, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland Germans win, taking East Poland from Russians with 3 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 6 infantry Russians defend with 1 artillery and 8 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 6 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/11 hits, 3,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 8 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 4/9 hits, 3,00 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 5/7 hits, 3,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 2/7 hits, 2,33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 5 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 3/5 hits, 2,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 2 armour, 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Germans: 6 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 8 infantry Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry Russians defend with 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in North Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 fighters and 3 submarines British defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in North Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in North Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 3 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Gibraltar Non Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia to Poland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Rumania 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 4 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 2 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Finland 2 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Poland 2 armour moved from France to Germany 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 4 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany 1 infantry moved from France to Eastern France 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 fighter moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Germany 1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Austria 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Poland 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Rumania 1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia Place Units - Germans 13 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 45 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@DoManMacgee @The_Good_Captain
Sorry, apparently I entered the wrong topic ID…
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Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 8 armour; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour moved from Algeria to Morocco Germans take Morocco from Americans 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States Germans take Baltic States from Russians 5 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 bomber moved from Germany to Caucasus 2 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus 1 submarine moved from White Sea Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in Caucasus Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Caucasus Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine Americans defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone Americans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 6 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 11 armour, 3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to East Poland 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to East Poland 9 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 1 fighter moved from Poland to Germany Place Units - Germans 8 armour placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 47 PUs; end with 49 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@The_Good_Captain Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 3 armour moved from Belorussia to Caucasus 3 armour moved from Belorussia to Karelia 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Caucasus 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Karelia 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Karelia 1 artillery moved from Russia to Karelia Combat - Russians Battle in Karelia Russians attack with 3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 bombers Germans defend with 5 infantry Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 bombers in Karelia, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 5 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Karelia 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 2 bombers in Karelia, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Karelia, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Russians lost in Karelia 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 3 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 bomber Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry Battle in Caucasus Russians attack with 3 armour and 1 fighter Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 1 fighter in Caucasus, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus Russians win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 3 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Moscow 5 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Turkestan 4 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Belorussia to Moscow 3 infantry moved from Leningrad to Russia 6 infantry moved from Russia to Moscow 1 bomber moved from Karelia to Moscow Place Units - Russians 6 infantry placed in Moscow Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 20 PUs; end with 21 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -1.00 Russians regular : 0.00Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - British British buy 1 bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Baltic States 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria British take Algeria from Germans 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Iran 1 armour moved from Iran to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 carriers, 3 fighters and 1 transport moved from North Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 armour moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 1 armour moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France British take France from Germans Combat - British Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. British attack with 1 armour Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 armour in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the British lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for British: 1 armour Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States British attack with 1 bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the British lost in Baltic States Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -15 Casualties for British: 1 bomber Non Combat Move - British Place Units - British 1 bomber placed in United Kingdom 1 transport placed in English Channel Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 26 PUs; end with 28 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 1.33 British regular : -0.17Game History
Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 6 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 4 fighters moved from United States to English Channel Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Russia 4 fighters moved from Leningrad to Moscow Combat - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 6 infantry placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 42 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Had to take some big risks here to move the needle. Let’s see how it goes.
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End of round 3 for Germany this game:
-1.88 in the Atlantic
-3.29 on the east front
-0.59 in the ME/AfricaNet: -5.76
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End of round 4 for Germany this game:
-1.63 in the Atlantic
-3.32 on the east front
-0.59 in the ME/AfricaNet: -5.54
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Beginning or round 5 Allies for Germany this game:
-1.88 in the Atlantic
-4.83on the east front
-0.59 in the ME/AfricaNet: -7.30
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 bombers and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 3 armour moved from East Poland to Caucasus 1 bomber moved from East Poland to Stalingrad 1 fighter moved from East Poland to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia Germans take Belorussia from Russians Combat - Germans Strategic bombing raid in Stalingrad Russians roll AA dice in Stalingrad : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Germans killed by AA in Stalingrad Bombing raid costs 0 PUs Battle in Caucasus Germans attack with 3 armour and 1 fighter Russians defend with 3 armour Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 1 fighter in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 armour in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus 2 armour owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 1 fighter in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Caucasus Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Germans: 2 armour Casualties for Russians: 3 armour Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to East Poland 4 fighters moved from Germany to East Poland 8 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 18 armour, 10 artilleries and 52 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia 1 aaGun moved from Austria to Germany Place Units - Germans 3 bombers and 1 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 44 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 0.67 Germans regular : -0.50 Russians AA : 0.83If the German bomber hadn’t gotten shot down, I have Moscow at 59%.
Since it was shot down, I have it at 43%. This says nothing for Berlin.While the dice were poor for the Germans from the first turn and didn’t change, so too were they last game and so its now very important: What do you ascribe your ability to go from 89% German win in the last game to these results with essentially the same dice in this game?
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@The_Good_Captain I said it to you privately in DMs but I’ll post in the forums for record keeping purposes:
I am rapidly coming to the realization that ME control may be much more vital than we gave it credit for, and rather than the current balance recommendations giving the Germans -1 DD in the Med (as well as denying them their initial 12 IPC bid) might be the better move overall than -1 TANK + -1 SUB
In this game specifically, Germany never took a single territory in the Middle East, which had the dual effect of denying Germany income (Which I feel amounted to ~1-2 “lost” tanks) while also boosting USA by ~1-2 Fighters over the course of the game. I don’t have concrete math to back up those guesses (you can probably go back and do the math yourself there) but I think the difference in the counts of power units (lost German Tanks, added US FTRs) contributed to a sizable % swing.
One last note, I feel like I did a better job guarding the Soviet Convoy over the course of this game Vs. last (mostly due to luck, of course). Any turn the USSR doesn’t have their convoy is effectively 1 lost INF for the endgame, which also adds up over the course of the game.
Will post my moves later. Your %s for Germany is much higher than I anticipated, but I got a few planes shot down over the last few turns so that may explain it.
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@The_Good_Captain Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 3 armour moved from Karelia to Moscow 3 infantry moved from Russia to Moscow 5 infantry moved from Turkestan to Moscow 1 bomber moved from Moscow to Leningrad 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Baltic Sea Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Germany Combat - Russians Battle in Germany Russians attack with 1 bomber Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 3 bombers, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 3 infantry Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Russians lost in Germany Germans win with 3 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -15 Casualties for Russians: 1 bomber Non Combat Move - Russians 1 aaGun moved from Stalingrad to Turkestan 1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Russia Place Units - Russians 7 infantry placed in Moscow Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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This game may end up having a very unexpected conclusion. OOL?
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Other thoughts while waiting;
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The 4 extra Soviet INF off the bid (instead of the naval placement I tried last game) makes a world of difference when doing numbers-crunching. After losing the last game we did, I went back and checked what would have happened if Moscow had +4 INF, the % would have shifted to something like 6X% German-favored instead of the ~90% result we got.
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I tried comparing the Germany Vs. USA income spread for this game but it didn’t add up. Germany actually pulled in more money this game Vs. the previous one (probably from nabbing Caucasus a few times). Furthermore, USSR’s income was net lower as well.
Basically, I have no clue what happened. It may just be the alternate bid placement for Soviets but I suspect there’s something going on with the margins units lost during minor trades along the eastern front. You might want to do a deep dive on what exactly went on here after the game is over.
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OOL was discussed offline:
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - British British buy 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Moscow: 4 fighters EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Moscow: 4 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Germany 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Germany 2 carriers and 4 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 1 armour moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans 1 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco 1 fighter moved from Iran to Moscow EDIT: British undo move 9. 1 fighter moved from Iran to Moscow Combat - British Battle in Morocco British attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 armour British roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Morocco, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Morocco 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Morocco British win, taking Morocco from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 armour Battle in Germany British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 3 bombers, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 3 infantry Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 0/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 5/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 3/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Germany 2 bombers owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 bomber in Germany, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Germany, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Germany British roll dice for 1 bomber in Germany, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Germany, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Germany British roll dice for 1 bomber in Germany, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in Germany, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Germans lost in Germany British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 48 Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry Casualties for Germans: 3 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 bomber moved from Germany to Russia Place Units - British 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 transport placed in English Channel Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 29 PUs; end with 34 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans AA : -0.17 Germans regular : -0.50 British regular : -0.17Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 6 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 6 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 6 infantry and 3 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Russia to Moscow 4 fighters moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Moscow Non Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 6 infantry placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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That outcome in Berlin was <10% BTW. Sorry.
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Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 18 armour, 10 artilleries and 54 infantry moved from Belorussia to Moscow 8 armour moved from East Poland to Moscow 1 armour moved from Caucasus to Iraq Germans take Iran from Middle_East Germans take Iraq from Middle_East 5 fighters moved from East Poland to Moscow Combat - Germans Battle in Moscow Germans attack with 26 armour, 10 artilleries, 5 fighters and 54 infantry British defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 7 fighters; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 factory, 5 fighters and 73 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Moscow : 1/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 26 armour, 10 artilleries, 4 fighters and 54 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 31/94 hits, 29.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 4 artilleries, 13 fighters and 73 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 31/93 hits, 35.33 expected hits 31 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 31 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 26 armour, 10 artilleries, 4 fighters and 23 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 30/63 hits, 23.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 4 artilleries, 13 fighters and 42 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 24/62 hits, 25.00 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 23 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 30 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 26 armour, 9 artilleries and 4 fighters in Moscow, round 4 : 13/39 hits, 18.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 4 artilleries, 13 fighters and 12 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 19/32 hits, 15.00 expected hits 9 artilleries owned by the Germans and 10 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 12 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 16 armour and 4 fighters in Moscow, round 5 : 7/20 hits, 10.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 3 artilleries and 13 fighters in Moscow, round 5 : 11/19 hits, 10.67 expected hits 11 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 1 fighter owned by the Russians, 3 armour owned by the Russians and 3 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 5 armour and 4 fighters in Moscow, round 6 : 4/9 hits, 4.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 12 fighters in Moscow, round 6 : 9/12 hits, 8.00 expected hits 4 fighters owned by the Germans and 5 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 4 fighters owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Russians win with 8 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -82 Casualties for Germans: 26 armour, 10 artilleries, 5 fighters and 54 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 fighters and 73 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans Place Units - Germans 14 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 46 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.00 Germans regular : -0.33 Russians AA : 0.17G6 GG.tsvg whatever you did, please do it again lol - same sides please. You’re doing the lords work.
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Net TUV Round 1
EF: -7.31
Atlantic/WA: -18.89
Africa/Med: -0.44
Total: -26.64
Net TUV Round 2
EF: -12.74
Atlantic/WA: -4.19
Africa/Med: -27.59
Total: -44.52
Net TUV Round 3
EF: -2.68
Atlantic/WA: -4.19
Africa/Med: -24.13
Total: -31.00
Net TUV round 4
EF: +2.43
Atlantic/WA: +10.89
Africa/Med: -22.61
Total: -9.29
Net TUV Round 5
EF: -14.73
Atlantic/WA: +10.89
Africa/Med: -24.13
Germany: -13.98
Total: -41.95
Total without Germany: -27.97
Net TUV Round 6
EF: -14.73
Atlantic/WA: +10.89
Africa/Med: -24.13
Germany: -13.98
Moscow: +19.22
Total: -22.73
Overall TUV swing throughout the entire game
EF: +11
Atlantic/WA: +64
Africa/Med: +2
Germany: -33
Total: +44
Total (without combined attack on Germany): +77
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I think it’s safe to say that the Germans in each battle lost more TUV on average than in the last game. Also, the overall TUV swing is a bit lower. That might be a part of the explanation why the odds for Moscow are significantly lower. Germany got the wrong dice at the wrong moments in this game.
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@VictoryFirst Thanks!
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So to elaborate on what I was calculating here:
“Net TUV swing” is the difference between the Average TUV swing and the Actual TUV swing of each battle. So, a completely average game should have this number as close to 0 as possible. It is more or less equivalent to the Net Pieces that TGC calculated but with the IPC-value of each piece factored in (so -1.00 Net Pieces could mean one 3-IPC infantry or one 15-IPC bomber lost, this would be respectively around -3.00 and -15.00 with Net TUV swing).
So, the battles in the Atlantic generally have more extreme numbers because the naval units are far more expensive than land units.“Overall TUV swing throughout the entire game” is just a sum of the TUV swings of each battle. This number doesn’t really have an average but it should be compared to other games. It gives a sense for how many IPC worth of units the Germans killed versus how many they lost themselves, or in other words, how much they “gained”.
The names of the calculations might be a bit confusing though, I would rather see the second calculation be called “Net TUV swing”, the first one perhaps “TUV Swing Differential”?
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