@mike64 I had edited that tank out of Denmark on Japan’s turn, but it’s back in Denmark. When I do Germany I’m going to edit back to W Germany.
TGC (German) vs. Doman (Allies) Original Europe
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German sub [dice 1d6]
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1d6: 3
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German fighters [dice 2d6]
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2d6: 3, 6
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the hit has to go on the transport in this case since fighters need a destroyer present to allocate hits to submarines.
before we roll the defensive fire roll, are you submerging your sub or fighting with it?
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@The_Good_Captain Fight to the death!
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russian sub [dice 1d6]
russian transport [dice 1d6] -
1d6: 6
1d6: 2 -
German sub attacks [dice 1d6]
Russian sub defends [dice 1d6]
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1d6: 1
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Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 30 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Norway to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R. Germans take Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians 1 armour moved from Hungary to Bessarabia Germans take Bessarabia from Russians 1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland Germans take East Poland from Russians 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States Germans take Baltic States from Russians 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 destroyer moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Tunisia to Libya Germans take Libya from British 1 armour moved from Libya to Tunisia 1 bomber moved from Germany to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in South Atlantic Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 destroyer Americans defend with 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in South Atlantic Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 transport in South Atlantic Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in South Atlantic Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 transport in South Atlantic Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in South Atlantic Sea Zone Germans win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship and 1 bomber British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 bomber in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the British lost in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 bomber owned by the Germans retreated British win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -16 Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship Casualties for British: 1 transport Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone: 1 submarine and 1 transport EDIT: Changing ownership of Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Russians to Germans EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Battle in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Crete 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Malta to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Adriatic Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Adriatic Sea Sea Zone to Yugoslavia 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 2 armour moved from Germany to Hungary 8 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 3 fighters moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 2 fighters moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 8 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 1 artillery moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 1 artillery moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 1 artillery moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Finland 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Austria 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway Place Units - Germans 30 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 46 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -1.17 British regular : 1.83 -
@DoManMacgee said in TGC (German) vs. Doman (Allies) Original Europe:
@The_Good_Captain Fight to the death!
I have to ask you to EDIT back in your Russian sub. Chalk it up to the non-intuitive nature of sub rules but I should not have asked you to submerge. The Russian sub submerges, full stop.
An attacking sub is 60/40 win loss against a defending sub.
The Russian sub gets no benefit for fighting to the death.
It attacks the German sub on its turn at 60% as opposed to defending on its own turn at 40%.
The German sub will fight to the death on the Russian turn in order to try to win at 40% and deny the Soviets their IPC. I’ve encountered this before and should have known better. The battle really was always only about the Russian transport only. Even if the German sub had “hit” on the surprise strike, you could just select the transport since casualty selection is sequential and the surprise attack occurs before normal combat. The Russian sub was never under threat and should always submerge.
Play on with the Russian sub and I will fight to the death as the German sub on Russias turn.
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@The_Good_Captain Good point. That’s what I get for replying to you 2AM my time. Will carry on.
I’m guessing the pattern will be for the defending sub to submerge in that part of the board unless something substantial happens
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@DoManMacgee said in TGC (German) vs. Doman (Allies) Original Europe:
@The_Good_Captain Good point. That’s what I get for replying to you 2AM my time. Will carry on.
I’m guessing the pattern will be for the defending sub to submerge in that part of the board unless something substantial happens
The German sub will fight to the death in an effort to prevent the USSR from gaining the 4IPC therin.
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@The_Good_Captain Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Russia to Karelia 4 armour and 3 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vyborg 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 armour, 4 artilleries and 27 infantry moved from Belorussia to Baltic States 9 infantry moved from Leningrad to Baltic States 3 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Belorussia Combat - Russians Battle in Vyborg Russians attack with 4 armour and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 4 armour and 3 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 2.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg Russians win, taking Vyborg from Germans with 4 armour and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Karelia Russians attack with 1 artillery and 6 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 1 artillery and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Russians win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 submarine Germans defend with 1 submarine Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in Soviet Convoy Sea Zone Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 2 armour, 4 artilleries and 36 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 4 artilleries and 36 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 14/42 hits, 9.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 2 armour, 4 artilleries and 35 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 aaGun moved from Belorussia to Baltic States 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Leningrad Place Units - Russians 8 infantry placed in Leningrad Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.67 Russians regular : 3.67Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - British British buy 2 carriers; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Adriatic Sea Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Egypt to Libya British take Libya from Germans 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to South Atlantic Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to East Poland Combat - British Battle in East Poland British attack with 1 bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 bomber in East Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 bomber in East Poland, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 bomber in East Poland, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in East Poland, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in South Atlantic Sea Zone British attack with 2 fighters Germans defend with 1 destroyer British roll dice for 2 fighters in South Atlantic Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in South Atlantic Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the British lost in South Atlantic Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in South Atlantic Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 fighter Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Battle in Adriatic Sea Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer Germans defend with 1 transport British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Adriatic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 transport in Adriatic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Adriatic Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 transport in Adriatic Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Adriatic Sea Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Adriatic Sea Sea Zone Germans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Casualties for Germans: 1 transport Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco 1 bomber moved from East Poland to Leningrad Place Units - British 2 carriers placed in Atlantic Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 21 PUs; end with 26 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.17 British regular : -1.00Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 9 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria Americans take Algeria from Germans 1 destroyer moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from United States to Atlantic Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Atlantic Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad EDIT: 1 armour moved from Libya to Syria Combat - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 3 fighters placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 42 PUs; end with 51 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Two notes:
1.) I edited the UK Tank from Egypt -> Syria (instead of going to Libya). That was a miss-click on my end that I didn’t notice until partway through the American turn.
2.) To quote something George Lucas said about the Star Wars Prequels: “I may have gone a bit far in a few places.”
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End of round 2 for Germany this game:
-1.88 in the Atlantic
-2.94 on the east front
-1.41 in the ME/AfricaNet: -6.23
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Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 9 armour; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria Combat - Germans Battle in Algeria Germans attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry Americans defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Algeria, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Algeria Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Algeria Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Algeria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Algeria, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Algeria, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Algeria, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Algeria Germans win, taking Algeria from Americans with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 32 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R. 5 armour moved from Hungary to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Hungary to Poland 5 armour moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 1 submarine moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to White Sea Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 2 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 bomber moved from Crete to Germany 3 fighters moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 1 fighter moved from Norway to Poland 1 fighter moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Norway to Germany Place Units - Germans 9 armour placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 42 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -1.00 Germans regular : -0.83 -
Game History
Round: 2 Actions - AustroHungarians Purchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians Russians roll mine dice in SZ 21 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Trigger AlbaniaJoins: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachmentAlbaniaSwitch attached to Italians Trigger AlbaniaJoins: Italians captures territory Albania Trigger AlbaniaJoins: Italians takes ownership of territory Albania 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Serbia to Albania 2 artilleries moved from Trieste to Albania 1 fighter moved from Vienna to Albania 1 infantry moved from Serbia to Trieste 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste 2 infantry moved from Romania to Galicia 4 artilleries and 18 infantry moved from Galicia to Poland 4 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Romania to Budapest 1 battleship moved from SZ 17 to SZ 21 AustroHungarians take SZ 21 from Russians Italians take Albania from Neutral_Allied Combat - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians has abandoned SZ 11 to Russians Battle in Albania AustroHungarians attack with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 6/13 hits, 6.33 expected hits Neutral_Allied roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians lost in Albania 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 3 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Albania AustroHungarians win, taking SZ 11 from Germans, taking Albania from Italians with 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 2 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Combat Move - AustroHungarians Trigger ChangeToBerlinMine: Germans captures territory SZ 11 Trigger ChangeToSevastopolMine: Russians captures territory SZ 21 Place Units - AustroHungarians 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 7 infantry placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 33 PUs; end with 34 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Neutral_Allied regular : 0.00 Russians mine : -0.17 AustroHungarians regular : -0.33 -
@The_Good_Captain Wrong thread, although I can’t say I wouldn’t rather be on that board than this one right now.
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@DoManMacgee said in TGC (German) vs. Doman (Allies) Original Europe:
@The_Good_Captain Wrong thread, although I can’t say I wouldn’t rather be on that board than this one right now.
thanks but G3 is posted above it
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